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Rob Richardson02 Jun 2005 1:23 a.m. PST

I'm thinking about creating a "Mountie" (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) "gang" for LoTOW (they'd be lawmen, of course).

I know about the Pulp Figures pack (1 mounted and 1 dismounted version of the same figure) and it is very nice.

To make a workable "gang" I'll need about 6-8 figures of which I'd like at least three to be Mounties. I'd like to have a few more poses (and weapon variations)... Does anyone else make comparably sized Mounties?

If not, are there any figures that might be easily converted to represent the RCMP.

Thanks

Rob

willthepiper02 Jun 2005 2:37 a.m. PST

The only other Mounties I know of are NWMP by Rafm. They are in the 1873 uniform (pill box hat) and are true 25mm, so they will look quite short compared to the Pulp Figures Mountie.

But you should know that a Mountie doesn't NEED a gang. He will simply approach the baddies, tell them to cease and desist in the name of the Queen's Law, and then take them into custody once they realise the error of their ways!

If you really need figures to back up Sgt Renfrew, here are a couple of ideas:

1. Give Yukon King (the husky) the same stats and cost as either the prize fighter or the Chinese labourer (less the throwing daggers).
2. From Pulp Figures "Northern Adventurers" pack, the Mountie can be backed up by a dashing pilot, a French Canadian trapper, and a brave Inuit (or Eskimo) tracker.
3. Team him up with a US Sheriff (a la Bordertown)

Cheers,
Will

John the OFM02 Jun 2005 4:23 a.m. PST

Mounties are like Texas Rangers. You only need one because "you only got one riot".

Thought02 Jun 2005 10:34 a.m. PST

RCMP would be rather inappropriate for the Old West.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police were not formed until 1920, when the RNWMP absorbed the Dominion Police, and the federal police were reformed into the Royal Canadfian Mounted Police.

The North West Mounted Police (this is what you want) were formed in 1873, and entered active duty in 1874.

The NWMP were given the prefix "Royal" by King Edward VII in June 1904, and thus became the Royal North West Mounted Police (RNWMP). And no, in the commonwealth you can't just slap 'Royal' on the front of your name, you have to do it with the permission of the King or Queen.

If you are interested, here is a link to a brief history of the RCMP off their official website. link

This is a link to a page describing the uniform of the NWMP, unfortunately it is in B&W: link

Colour descriptions are given for the uniform in the text, which should be of help. They also mention a couple books if you want to find them. There are probably colour pictures on the net, but check their sources for validity.

And just as a side note, and in case the OFM is reading (he asked about 'real' mounties a while back) the RCMP has their own take on Hollywood's view of them, here: link

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jun 2005 11:21 a.m. PST

I've recently picked up the "Due South" TV series from Amazon.Canada and this is providing me with great inspiration to paint up an RCMP (or whatever - we all know who we mean) posse myself, using those Pulp Figures characters. Vive la GRC!!

Thought02 Jun 2005 11:27 a.m. PST

Incidentally, the figure for Pulp Figures would be RCMP, and is obviously based on a Hollywood film (I can't remember the name off hand). Historically the NWMP jurisdiction was extented into the Yukon in 1895, so he most likely was supposed to be NWMP (or RNWMP) instead of RCMP (the uniform actually looks about right for early 20th century RNWMP), although I guess a post 1920 'Yukon Adventure' is possible.

Now the part I'm unclear on is when the mounties stopped wearing the Red Serge as a regular duty uniform. The Stetson and Scarlet Tunic is listed as the official uniform, but in practice I have only seen it worn at official occassions, much like the U.S. Marines (who also have a very fancy uniform that is worn at official occassions). Saw a Mountie at a wedding in the Red Serge, he was very sharp.

Here is a link to the uniform of the RCMP, if you click on the various names, it goes to a page where it talks about the evolution of that part of the uniform since 1873.

rcmp.ca/uniform/index_e.htm

Incidentally, Pulp Figures are remaining true to their Pulp source material, and have stated that they will do so at the expense of Historical Accuracy, so no complaint with them. And all things considered, the figure probably looks fairly appropriate for the period - assuming he is supposed to be wearing the Red Serge (which I'm not certain of, but as stated, they are sticking to the Pulp source, so I have no complaint with them).

Thought02 Jun 2005 11:40 a.m. PST

Hmm, made a bit of a contradiction there.

What I meant was that the Pulp Figures miniature was supposed to be RCMP because Hollywood usually called them RCMP, even if the time period was before 1920. Historically however, an actual Yukon Mountie for that sort of setting (as opposed to a later setting) had a better chance to be NWMP/ RNWMP than RCMP.

Incidentally, Piper, call them Mounties, works for all periods. And actually, the RCMP refers to themselves generically as the RCMP even when discussing the NWMP period, so I guess it is permissable for us to do it now. Due South was actually produced in Canada so is more authentic, but is still rather tongue in cheek and has some fun with the stereotypes. Sounds like you are Canadian, so you probably know that anyway.

Of course Hollywood calling them RCMP in a film meant to be prior to 1920 is still wrong, as they didn't know at the time what their future name would be.

Think of it in the terms of using the term 'United States Air Force' in WW2 - there was no such animal. In WW2 it was the USAAF (United States Army Air Force), although it would later became the USAF, but for a WW2 movie to be using the USAF designation would be silly.

tinned fruit Supporting Member of TMP02 Jun 2005 3:39 p.m. PST

Try Copplestones "Explorers of the Amazon " pack in his High adventure range and the "American Adventurers" pack in the BoB range.

A couple of the figures have the right hats and with the correct paint job.....

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