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Supercilius Maximus19 Apr 2017 1:29 a.m. PST

It's 242 years since you started shooting at us, but we've forgiven you (and for the tea nasty stuff, I'd have dumped it overboard, too).

And you get a brand new museum:-

(Sorry it's not on the "Wargaming in the UK" board, but all the "nationality" boards disappeared off the crosspost menu after I'd selected "Wargaming in the USA".

Obviously some dastardly Whig trick to keep it to themselves……

No representation without taxation!

Winston Smith19 Apr 2017 3:16 a.m. PST

Our taxation may be worse but at least we got a lot of nice wargaming figures out if it.

raylev319 Apr 2017 3:33 a.m. PST

If we had known the UK would become the hub of all things wargaming, where all the wargames streets are paved with gold, I think we would have remained British.

nevinsrip19 Apr 2017 4:13 a.m. PST

I would guess that a lot more died fighting together, than did fighting among each other, as far as the US and UK go.

It ain't called the Mother Country for nothing.

But then again, who wants to live with their mother?

rustymusket19 Apr 2017 5:14 a.m. PST

A bucket list wish of mine is the visit the UK and see all of your history. Regarding the split that few years back, I sometimes wonder how good an idea it was. It seems to be a result of 2 peoples talking at each other instead of with each other. We seem still to be doing that now among one peoples. Some things never really change. (With a little honey, the tea isn't bad. It is the healthy green tea I loathe.)

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 5:51 a.m. PST

I'll be visiting Mommy England in July!

Gone Fishing19 Apr 2017 6:23 a.m. PST

Nevinsrip beat me to it: we've been shoulder to shoulder far more than face to face. I'm a proud American, but love the UK – gorgeous country with some of the finest people on earth, I think. God bless her.

And am I the only one that likes tea around here? I can't imagine beginning a day without it. In fact, I'm drinking some now!

advocate Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 6:24 a.m. PST

Rustymusket – it'll be a long visit if you want to see ALL of our history… but do come and give it a try!

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 6:40 a.m. PST

I like Ice Tea but it's coffee in the morning.

raylev319 Apr 2017 6:47 a.m. PST

it'll be a long visit if you want to see ALL of our history

A Brit exchange officer friend of mine spent two years as an Air Force exchange officer in west Texas. It was then he realized that to an American, 100 miles is nothing, and to a Brit, 100 years is nothing.

Supercilius Maximus19 Apr 2017 8:22 a.m. PST

I would guess that a lot more died fighting together, than did fighting among each other, as far as the US and UK go.

The AWI is good for learning stuff like this. Plus, we've fought fewer wars against the Germans than we have alongside them, and the AWI was the largest concentration of German troops outside of Europe until the Afrika Korps.

Winston Smith19 Apr 2017 8:52 a.m. PST

That's a wonderful piece of trivia SuperMax. I'll be sure to use it without attribution.

It's fortunate that the Hesse Saxe Regiment von Rommel wasn't sent over, or we would now be speaking English.

advocate Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 9:24 a.m. PST

He'd have run out of supplies, but in a very stylish way.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 10:22 a.m. PST

Britain was the largest source of foreign investment in the United States after the Revolution and for at least all of the 19th Century -- and this was even before the development of the now longstanding alliance between us.

We forgive you for burning down the White House back in 1814.

I'll be in the UK for a few weeks this summer, visiting Blackpool, Stonehenge, and we haven't decided what else. Fortunately, I learned to drive on the wrong side of the road during a long summer in Thailand. Now if I can find an English-American app for my phone, I'll be able to manage the language barrier.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 10:26 a.m. PST

You are all very welcome to visit! After Brexit…do you want another state adding to your union?

Garde de Paris19 Apr 2017 11:10 a.m. PST

And don't forget that President Jefferson bought the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon, because Napoleon realized he could not keep the British from taking it from France.

And Jefferson financed the purchase using funds borrowed from British bankers!

This great help from the British, and our keeping New Orleans at the end of the War of 1812 opened us up all the way to the Pacific!


42flanker19 Apr 2017 11:47 a.m. PST

Blackpool, Stonehenge and we haven't decided what else

That should do it. Watford Gap services, maybe

PVT64119 Apr 2017 11:49 a.m. PST

When I used to actively participate in living history in the 64th regiment of Foot, we had a member who used to ask people at events "So how do you like taxation WITH representation"?

Cerdic19 Apr 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

Yes, if Brexit goes badly I think becoming the 51st State might be an easier sell than the EU ever was!

Up the Anglosphere!

Royal Marine19 Apr 2017 1:09 p.m. PST

Other good places to visit in the UK are:
1. Imperial War Museum (IWM) (all the sites)
2. Portsmouth Historic Dockyard (including HMS VICTORY).
3. Royal Marines Museum just down the road from number 2 above.
4. Windsor Castle link
… that should keep you busy ;-)

A few hundred miles and many hundreds of years.

GiloUK19 Apr 2017 1:52 p.m. PST

I hope it's not straying into politics to say that out of all the (many) people I've met over the years, the Americans and the Germans are those to whom I've felt the most affinity (outside of the immediate Anglosphere of Oz, Canada and NZ).

Any American cousin who finds themselves in London with a free day is always welcome to visit Chelmsford (it takes an hour – the same as queuing for the Empire State Building) for an AWI game and a drink or several.

Personal logo ACWBill Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 2:18 p.m. PST

Giles, next time I am in country, I may take you up on that offer!

Mikasa20 Apr 2017 1:19 a.m. PST

I wouldn't recommend Stonehenge over Avesbury, a charming little village built around a ring of standing stones and prehistoric earthworks. Stonehenge is far more touristy.

Must sees that are close to London (but not in London). The Cities of Bath, Wells, Oxford. Arundel castle, Winchester Cathedral.

42flanker20 Apr 2017 2:28 a.m. PST

Unfortunately, the Royal Marines Museum recently closed prior to re-opening at the Historic Dockyard in three years' time

vtsaogames20 Apr 2017 5:26 a.m. PST

becoming the 51st State might be an easier sell than the EU ever was

Think of how many translators we would have to hire.

Ceterman20 Apr 2017 6:32 a.m. PST

Can y'all come back & burn the White House again, please?

42flanker20 Apr 2017 7:15 a.m. PST

By the time we got there…..

Virginia Tory20 Apr 2017 7:49 a.m. PST

"That should do it. Watford Gap services, maybe."

And Grimsby.

Supercilius Maximus20 Apr 2017 9:35 a.m. PST

The National Army Museum in Chelsea (London) has just re-opened and by all accounts has a lot to commend it, not least being right next door to the Royal Hospital (founded by Charles II and sponsored with a donation of land by, so it's rumoured, Nell Gwynne). See this TMP thread:-

TMP link

Can I also add that Giles has not only an unmatchable collection of AWI units, but an equally unmatchable collection of wines. Both make for a very good game……

Winston Smith20 Apr 2017 9:08 p.m. PST

Getting the Yankees drunk, and then beating them with an unfamiliar rules set?
Ok. I'm game.

capncarp21 Apr 2017 11:00 p.m. PST

"<"becoming the 51st State might be an easier sell than the EU ever was">

Think of how many translators we would have to hire."
It's a trap! They'll load the transports with Welsh, and the language will absorb all our vowels!!!!

Supercilius Maximus23 Apr 2017 3:58 a.m. PST

Welsh is easy to master – just bang your forehead repeatedly on the keyboard……et voila! (which is almost the same in Welsh, btw).

grtbrt23 Apr 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

As a ex-pat living in the states and with an American family : Here are some places that they love to see when we visit
Stonehenge is a must (I like it much more than Avebury)
Old Sarum (in Salisbury )
Duxford (if you like planes )
Bovington (if you like tanks)
Hendon (planes again)
British Museum (Rosetta stone and tons of other stuff)

The Big things to get prior to is the English Heritage overseas visitor pass ( for about $100 USD for a family of 4 ). You get free access to all English Heritage sites including Stonehenge (which pays for it by itself). We get this every visit.

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