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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse17 Apr 2017 12:06 p.m. PST

Very nice!
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Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2017 12:52 p.m. PST

To be this good, they had to be 1/72 scale….weep

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2017 7:54 p.m. PST

Those are quite something

von Winterfeldt18 Apr 2017 2:53 a.m. PST

the reins presummably to be constructed by the wargamer himself??

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Apr 2017 10:41 a.m. PST

Glad you like them my friends!. (smile)


Von… seems that those new models have that… problem…I always used Sewing thread.


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2017 10:50 a.m. PST

von W's point is well made…..

But, to be honest, which would we prefer? OK, I fully accept for wargames and durability, moulding on of reins is best. But it takes seconds to add metal foil cut into thin strips for a brilliant scale effect. You just have to buy a decent bottle of Valpolicella and save the foil around the neck

C M DODSON18 Apr 2017 11:51 a.m. PST

Very nice indeed. I await their arrival at Hagen.

Chris

von Winterfeldt18 Apr 2017 10:47 p.m. PST

putting reins on 40 horses would be a daunting task, why not sculpt them in that way it can be casted or use an expert mould maker? See Franznap miniatures, intricate miniatures – but seemingly no problems with delicate reins?

4th Cuirassier19 Apr 2017 4:14 a.m. PST

Presumably these could be used as the staff of any French Napoleonic commander? In 1/72 who's going to be able to tell?

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member19 Apr 2017 4:36 a.m. PST

40 horses vW? I only see 4

Come on, don't be a grinch – let us 1/72 fans savour these and the continued expansion of available staff officers grin

The Bavarian19 Apr 2017 6:57 a.m. PST

With every new set of cavalry we get from Massimo Winterfeldt commends the missing reigns.

Take a look at the reigns of the painting. No reign is fixed to the horse like we have in platic or metal castings from other manufactors.

Of course we can cast reigns too, see for example the horse of Leonids Austrian infantry which is new in the shop

But again check the horses of the ADC and the Courier in the painting. The reigns are not running down the neck of the horse but are loose in the air.

It is easy to make a reign of wire, paper, make a sausage of green stuff etc. And then fix it in the hand of the different rider. This is done in less then five minutes.

Von Winterfeldt – you tell us that the band of the dragoons musket is fixed on the wrong ring – but it is ok for you to have reigns which are simply casted to a horses neck.

This I can't understand. I thought you always want to have the perfect figures?

von Winterfeldt19 Apr 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

OK I see your point, I was under the impression that the reins would not cast, but you seemingly opt for very realistic reins which the modeller has to do for himself.
I wouldn't be able to do such a thing in 5 minutes and admire your enthusiasm to do so.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 8:22 a.m. PST

Let me say again. A nice bottle of something Italian with a black foil top. The most expensive have the thickest metal foil and are the most enjoyable.

Drink the contents and then cut into thin strips. Stick them to the bridle and the rider's hand with the black side innermost (you do not want to try to paint that!)Two each side, scale effect is superb.

The trouble with casting is the solid block you always get below the horse's head. OK, I admit Perrys cleverly offset the reins in their plastic sets, but there is still the solid block below the chin. It takes ages to drill out and can ruin the horse!

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The Bavarian19 Apr 2017 11:37 a.m. PST

Hi deadhead,

your idea sounds very interesting:-)

I will talk with Andy, maybe we can add a wire or something else to the figures. But I am not sure if we can handle so many Italian bottles…

cheers
Uwe

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 11:52 a.m. PST

I not think wargamers will be that bothered. The figures are just wonderful…so much better proportioned than 28mm, but it is always so with 1/72 from German makers. Instantly one can tell without checking, when new figures appear…

Oh, they are too good for 28mm….ours are Hobbits (with honourable exceptions of course)

Why can we not convert you chaps to TOTS (The One True Scale)?

A decent Valpolicella, Montepulciano or Bardolino will usually give you what you need from the neck. Barolo is bit expensive.

Get a Chianti with the brass wire cage, though. One bottle will provide aigulettes for a whole regt of French Garde. I have saved several. Lace for shakoes and aigulettes, perfect

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member19 Apr 2017 2:55 p.m. PST

DH. You continue to look through the wrong end of the binoculars… 1/72 is TOTS – you must stop spending time on those oversized dwarves grin

Kidding

Or am I…

stoneman1810 Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 4:59 p.m. PST

Reins cut from a good quality paper and then coated with white glue are pretty durable.

4th Cuirassier20 Apr 2017 2:32 a.m. PST

A big Amarone – or south Italian knockoff, Papaverone – do very well for reins as well. They work right up to 54mm scale, if not beyond.

The Bavarian20 Apr 2017 6:39 a.m. PST

One day everybody will have a 3D-Printer and then simply can print the figures he likes into "his" range I think…

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Apr 2017 11:42 a.m. PST

One one of the best Massimo works I have seen!…

Don't bother my good friend Uwe… our fellow member Von… has a bad day… (well, In honor of the truth … usually he has many bad days when it comes to Napoleon and his boys) (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Apr 2017 12:08 p.m. PST

I have to say that von W is one of the best modellers to contribute to this forum. I have never met him, I have no idea if he just models or wargames, but he got my vote some time ago, when we were asked who was the most helpful contributor.

von W made a perfectly serious point. No reins. OK. One choice is accept that because this is only 1/72 and that is not a serious scale and it is only for wargamers who do not care about accuracy (WE call that a very big wind up locally….it means not serious and meant to raise a mad response). Second is do something about it……if a bit fragile.. Third is to insist on the makers producing the huge chunks of metal we see beneath very horse's tackle/chin, which you simply cannot remove without destroying the horse

Uwe, Niels et al are in a class of their own for what they can produce.

We are so lucky to have the talent that is now available to us.

I am only trying to annoy everyone honestly!

My only wargames (1970s) were WWI (a total massacre, whoever attacked) and Allied Airborne WWII ( a total massacre, as all my Wacos, Hamilcars and Horsas landed in the middle of LAH and the DC3 drops were scattered to oblivion). I did also collect a mass of Landing craft in 1/300 scale with tanks etc, but the result was always a massacre, even for Walcheren. I gave up then and discovered the fair sex….much more expensive……

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Apr 2017 2:58 p.m. PST

What???!!!… you have not vote for me!!???… (Ha!Ha!Ha!)…


Amicalement
Armand

von Winterfeldt20 Apr 2017 11:32 p.m. PST

so lets just see one of those miniatures whith attached reins – how it works out.

4th Cuirassier21 Apr 2017 6:02 a.m. PST

If plastics of the quality and breadth of range of these had been available when I got into Napoleonics, I would never have bought a metal figure.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Apr 2017 9:01 a.m. PST

Dumb question I will ask.

Are these plastic? I automatically assumed from the quality of casting that they must be metals….

1/72 yes, but not plastic surely….unless………they really are…..

Marc the plastics fan Inactive Member24 Apr 2017 10:18 a.m. PST

Nope. Metals. Often using plastic masters – esp horses. But plastics mould for a set like this would be ridiculously expensive

And I will not rise to your bait grin

But I will buy these and try to add reins – it will be fiddly, but worth it for the additional generals etc – so hard to find in any scale, but 1/72 seems particularly challenging

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