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17 Apr 2017 2:29 p.m. PST
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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP17 Apr 2017 6:29 a.m. PST

I just started watching House of Cards. One of the first things that struck me was how much Claire resembled Cersei after her Walk of Shame. In particular I was struck by the stark (not Stark) black costume Cersei wore on her coronation. Claire likes stark black or white clothes also. Same hair style, more or less.

Consider this a "Ginger or Mary Ann" question.
Both are as hot as a pistol.

On the whole I prefer Claire. She feels the need to be pleasant, and can be genuinely nice, but will still stick the knife in your back. Cersei is spoiled, and is only pleasant artificially.

JimDuncanUK17 Apr 2017 6:54 a.m. PST

I much prefer the BBC version of House of Cards even although it was made by the BBC.

Most UK folk will have seen this long before the American version came along and will most likely be able to relate to the characters in the British story much more easily.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Apr 2017 7:42 a.m. PST

Cersei. But both are hot as a pistol.

Dynaman878917 Apr 2017 10:28 a.m. PST

I'm a Mary Ann fan – don't care about Cersei or Claire

John Treadaway Inactive Member17 Apr 2017 11:00 a.m. PST

Jim: I agree entirely (not surprisingly, I guess, based on mutual locations)

John T

JimDuncanUK17 Apr 2017 11:37 a.m. PST

Thanks John T

Back to the OP.

Hot as a Pistol

Again a bit difficult for a UK person. Handguns are banned in the UK so if you can personally relate to a handgun then you are most likely a policeman, a serviceman, a veterinarian or a criminal.

Ginger or Mary Ann

Ginger, as in Ginger Rodgers? I do like nice dancers from the black and white era.

Mary Ann? Was she in the Waltons?

Korvessa17 Apr 2017 2:37 p.m. PST

I believe the original old saying was "hot as a $2 USD pistol"
That's how my dad used to say it anyway. It's an old gangster term for stolen

Thomas Thomas18 Apr 2017 10:03 a.m. PST

Book Cersei over either. Earthy, vain and motivated…

But only for a short term relationship.


Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Apr 2017 11:33 a.m. PST

Who what or which whenwhere?

williamb19 Apr 2017 8:25 p.m. PST

Ginger and Mary Ann were the two younger ladies on Gilligan's Island. Ginger was a movie star and Mary Ann was probably supposed to be the girl next door.

JimDuncanUK20 Apr 2017 3:29 a.m. PST

Gilligan's Island, OK, never heard of it.

Seen the Walton's though.

jowady21 Apr 2017 6:25 a.m. PST

Personally I am not interested in spending time with anyone who might stick a knife in my back no matter how hot they are. Besides Cersei, according to the books and Tyrion, has a tendency to, when Jaime isn't around, shall we say be loose with her affections. BTW, IMO Cersei isn't so much spoiled as she is evil. I'm looking forward to Drogon barbecuing her.

<Q>Mary Ann? Was she in the Waltons?

Different Mary Ann…Ginger vs Mary Ann is an ongoing argument in the US based on their appearance in Gilligan's Island, a TX show from the mid sixties.

Mary Ann's Wiki page;


Ginger's Wiki page;


And I cannot believe that they have Wiki pages. But there have even been scholarly papers written analyzing people as to whether they prefer Mary Ann or Ginger.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member21 Apr 2017 6:55 a.m. PST

The debate has been going on for half a century:

Each has her partisans. Ginger:

Mary Ann:

Shows ni signs of ending. I'm not sure how long Winston's proposed battle would last.

Was GI never shown in the UK?

Hafen von Schlockenberg Inactive Member25 Apr 2017 7:23 p.m. PST

And further--Agnetha or Frida?

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