"Best 1:56 vehicles for Kursk Campaign (CoC)" Topic

Folks,

I'm getting ready to roll this out for the club next month but have some vehicular holes that will need to be filled. So I'd like to get some feedback on what manufacturer you'd recommend for each of these vehicles.

Soviets

SU-76m (Warlord, JTFM or someone else?)
M3/M3A1 Stuart (Warlord Plastic, Blitzkreig or someone else?)
M3 Lee (Warlord, Blitzkreig or someone else?)
SU-122 ( I'm pretty sure this is Rubicon, but want to hear dissenting views)

Germans

Panzer II F (Warlord, Blitzkreig, JTFM, or someone else?)
Panzer III J/K/L/M (Warlord plastic, Rubicon, Blitzkreig, JTFM, or someone else?)
StuG III F/G/StuH 42 (Warlord plastic, Rubicon or someone else?)

Thanks!!
Ed

The problem with initials is, when some of us see "CoC" we are thinking Call of Cthulhu.

Lol I play both, so understand completely!

In general, if JTFM makes it, it's probably going to be the best modelwise. If you have to order from them rather than a retailer, it will probably take awhile to get the models.

The blitzkrieg models are smaller by comparison to the others. They are quite nice.

I think Rubicon is the only choice for the SU-122. Too bad about the tracks on their Russian kits.

And appropriately, the Elder God's game had the initials first.

So when someone posts about Kursk on the WWII board you think of Call of Chthulu? That's dedication.

Having built the master, Im partial to the JTFM SU76.

Company B? But then I might be bias!

:-)

Mike

I always think of Company B for PTO and early Soviet stuff, but the range is larger than that now… I'll take a look!

Ed

Took nearly 6 months to get my last order from JTFM despite monthly statements that it already been sent. If I was being told the truth by JFTM there must be 4 lost orders t there somewhere.

The Warlord Panzer II is not an F. Options for the F are Blitzkreig, JTFM of Army Group North. Assuming AGNM are still going. The Warlord plastic Panzer III, IV and Stug are poor IMHO. They have crude single road wheels instead of double. While I might accept that on a small scale model I wouldn't on a 1/56 one. The Rubicon ones are much better.

@jdginaz – I've never used them but they do have the reputation of being very good and very slow. That's probably ok for the Soviet stuff, but not really for the German stuff, which I'll need sooner in the campaign

@Fred Cartwright – I had read that Warlord Pz III kit wasn't too bad and was actually one of the cases where the Warlord plastic was better. I'll probably go Blitzkreig for the PzIIF, but that still leaves a Pz III hole…

What do mean "we"…I knew exactly what Pyrrhic Victory was posting…CoC and Kursk Campaign in the same sentence.

P.

Honestly, my mind did jump to Call of Cthulhu first. Obligatory Cthulhu variants are in every genre, this could well have been a crossposted WWW2 thread.

If I am not closely familiar with a game, and the actual name is not spelled out in either the thread title or the opening post, then I am pretty unlikely to have any clue what rules are being discussed.

CoC I recognised! Apparently was not the particular rules under original discussion though…

Re JTFM — their shipping always takes many months. Nice kits once you get them, but allow about 4–6 months for delivery.

As Frederick Cartwright mentions, Army Group North does several of these in resin and I really dig their castings. The caveat is the cast on base, which some people inexplicably dislike.

They've got your IIf, IIIj, and stgIIIg. Their Soviet stuff is more early war.

As *the* Mike Broadbent notes, Company B does terrific Stuarts and Lees.

Oh yeah. Company B does nice stuff. I had a little difficulty with the Panzer IV from them because of the lead track assemblies – they seemed disposed to mishaping. The panzer iiij is really nice. I have some of their Soviet stuff and that's very nice also.

I forgot they had an M3Lee – I might have to pick up one of those myself!

@Fred Cartwright – I had read that Warlord Pz III kit wasn't too bad and was actually one of the cases where the Warlord plastic was better. I'll probably go Blitzkreig for the PzIIF, but that still leaves a Pz III hole…

The old resin Warlord III's were nice, I have several, but the new plastic ones are not. I have both Warlord and Rubicon plastics and prefer the Rubicon. I have a JTFM IIIK too and that is nice. I would go Rubicon or JTFM whichever is easiest to get.