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von Winterfeldt12 Apr 2017 7:07 a.m. PST

wow – the Perrys are avant garde to the best

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Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2017 8:37 a.m. PST

Again, the Perrys set the standard to beat with more excellent sets of figures. I love the 'supporting' sets such as the camel-borne ambulance. I hope they produce an early-design Gribeauval howitzer to go with the classic 8 pdrs.

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP12 Apr 2017 9:07 a.m. PST

I wonder if the Perry's have an employee whose only job is to mix up Green Stuff. The twins are incredibly prolific.

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP13 Apr 2017 8:11 a.m. PST

I think its a case of they messed with green stuff whilst many us played with Play Do or plasticene. Their enthusiasm is infectious.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2017 10:29 a.m. PST

I cannot ever recall seeing, in any model, the rammer being used by two servers of the gun, as shown here. Brilliant……..

So obvious, but never shown. The loader has nothing else to do but lend a hand, someone else will resupply him. Best to only do it once the gun has fired, with a bright flash, though!

janner16 Apr 2017 11:22 a.m. PST

The rammer doesn't need help and this might lead to confusion. Sounds like a sure way to lose a hand wink

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Apr 2017 11:51 a.m. PST

Seriously? Genuinely interested here…..

I often thought the two chaps working together made far more sense. Sponging the barrel is easy (from the right of the barrel of course), ramming home a readily prepared charge (the bagged propellant, the sabot, the ball) must have been hard work, unless massive windage.

So long as the barrel has been washed out, the vent man has the firing hole sealed with his thumb, the chap with portfire is well away…….and they both then remember to stand clear…what can possibly go wrong with the loader, lending a hand (a temporary hand I stress)?

forwardmarchstudios16 Apr 2017 11:58 a.m. PST

That camel-ambulance is one of the coolest models I've ever seen.
I'm sure anyone who has been evacuated by camel ambulance would disagree.
The only thing missing from those cannons is… what were they called…. those rope things…. it's on the tip of my tongue…

Scharnachthal Inactive Member17 Apr 2017 2:14 a.m. PST

Seriously? Genuinely interested here…..

I often thought the two chaps working together made far more sense. Sponging the barrel is easy (from the right of the barrel of course), ramming home a readily prepared charge (the bagged propellant, the sabot, the ball) must have been hard work, unless massive windage.

So long as the barrel has been washed out, the vent man has the firing hole sealed with his thumb, the chap with portfire is well away…….and they both then remember to stand clear…what can possibly go wrong with the loader, lending a hand (a temporary hand I stress)?

Quite right. The piece is an 8-pounder, correct?

So here's what the "Manuel de l'artilleur contenant tous les objets dont la connoissance est nécessaire aux officiers et sous-officiers de l'artillerie suivant l'approbation de M. Gribeauval, par M. le chevalier d'Urtubie,… 3e édition" (1793) says:

"Section II. Service et position des hommes pour la piece de 8", p.90, last paragraph:

"Le service de cette piece se fait comme celui de la piece de 4; seulement le premier servant de gauche aide celui de droite à écouvillonner et à refouler,…"

(gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k8569623/f98.image)

There is a nice illustrated article on the "Manoeuvre de la pièce de 8" by Jean-Louis Viau in Tradition Magazine 78-79 (1993), pp.47ff.

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