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Allan F Mountford31 Mar 2017 2:08 a.m. PST

Contemplating a refight of La Soufel (28 June 1815). Having bought current e-book editions of Rawkins Austria and Bavaria guides (very impressive) I note both the Hesse-Darmstadt and Wurttemburg guides only go up to 1814. Any uniform experts out there who can steer me on the 1815 uniforms? If they didn't change from 1814 I will just follow Rawkins.

Summary OOB is as follows:

Hesse-Darmstadt:
. Crown Prince of Wurttemburg Hussar Regt
. Leib Guard Infantry Regt
. Guard Fusilier Infantry Regt
. Erbgrossherzog Infantry Regt
. Prinz Emil Infantry Regt
. Leib Infantry Regt
. Foot artillery

Wurttemburg:
. 2nd, 4th & 5th Mounted Jaeger Regts
. 3rd Dragoon Regt
. 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th Infantry Regts
. 9th Jaegers
. 10th Light
. 11th Sharpshooters
. Foot artillery
. Horse artillery

Many thanks.

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 6:20 a.m. PST

Here is Hessen Darmstadt Prinz Emil from the original Kotel series of the 1890's. You can find the whole serive on-lin and free access:

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GdeP

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 6:54 a.m. PST

Here is the link to Knotel:


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Back in the 1960's, when I first "met" Knotel, I envisioned doing a mythical shall army of these 5 regiments of Hessen Darmstadt.

I recall seeing one regiment (Guard?) with scarlet where Emil shows rose. Another has sky blue; and the Gross und ErbPrinz (as for Spain where is was captured) with yellow there Emil is pink.

Not sure what the 5th unit was.

French Voltigeurs or grenadiers of 1815 with covered shakos
would be perfect for these units, with the brush on the epaulettes filed away.

GdeP

Allan F Mountford31 Mar 2017 7:05 a.m. PST

GdeP

Many thanks! I had forgotten that Knotel was online – it is many years since I last looked.

Allan

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 12:33 p.m. PST

Glad to help!

I believe the artillery looked much as the Emil's did, with black collars, lapels, cuffs, and possibly shoulder boards, all edged scarlet. Handsome uniform.

The Wurttemburgers all wore the double-billed shako at this time. Not sure of the facing colours. All lapels would have been uniform dark blue, with regimental edging – half lapels. I have a set of them in unpainted flats, all in overalls. They were probably white(ish).

GdeP

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 12:47 p.m. PST

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I confess to not being able to maneuver on this page, but there are two pages of Wurttemberg infantry in schematic. One show some with raupenhelm, others with double-billed shako. When I try to enlarge them, a French dragoon plate comes up, or something else!

Hopefully others can add to this.

GdeP

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

The more I play with the computer, the more confusing it gets. Here are two for Knotel for 1813, both with shakos. But the right figure has pointed cuffs with tapes, and tape on the collar. No metal 'thingies' on the helmet.

??????

GdeP

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2017 2:07 p.m. PST

This is the plate I did not manage to copy into TMP earlier, Infantry, 1813:

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Allan F Mountford01 Apr 2017 5:49 a.m. PST

Thanks again. I now have the Rawkins guides for both nations and will post next week with an update.
Allan

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