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Cuirassier23 Mar 2017 6:45 a.m. PST

Does anyone know who the artist is?

Battle? Perhaps Wagram?

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THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Cuirassier23 Mar 2017 6:47 a.m. PST

French cuirassier, of course. ;-)

Larry R Inactive Member23 Mar 2017 6:56 a.m. PST

Paul Delaroche, painting is called The Field of Battle

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2017 9:54 a.m. PST

Great call by Larry R

Delaroche was born in 1797 and his first paintings were from the 1820s so I suspect this is not about a specific battle but rather a generic work honouring the French cavalry – he did a lot of Napoleonic work including the classical picture of the Emperor at the time of his abdication

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Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2017 3:31 p.m. PST

The rendition of the sheepskin is amazing! I see cream, greys and white. One can sense the softness of the wool/fur!

Incredible!
Thanks for sharing this print. Makes me want to give it a try at capturing that "feel"!

Tom

Supercilius Maximus In the TMP Dawghouse23 Mar 2017 5:46 p.m. PST

Is he rolling a joint?

Trajanus24 Mar 2017 3:52 a.m. PST

Why is he carrying the flag in the same hand as the sword would have been in when he belted the guy he took it from?

Cuirassier24 Mar 2017 8:45 a.m. PST

Trajanus,

The flag was on his left hand. He changed the flag to his right hand to free the left hand. He's using his left hand to adjust the chin strap of his helmet (to do this with both hands occupied would be difficult).

This scene probably is set after the successful cavalry charge.

Cuirassier24 Mar 2017 8:49 a.m. PST

Many thanks, Larry.

Ceterman Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2017 2:05 p.m. PST

And… His sabre is still in his left hand. It's just hanging from his wrist, secured with his sabre knot.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2017 2:40 p.m. PST

Lebanese Gold or Panama Red……from 40 years ago (SM you are a wicked man)

Much else also reflects later fashions, especially the massive fringed epaulettes,……….. not quite Second Empire, but post 1815.

Never mind. A great painting and clever by Larry R

Cuirassier24 Mar 2017 3:36 p.m. PST

Right hand, Ceterman. ;-) And you are absolutely correct about the sabre hanging from his wrist.

Trajanus24 Mar 2017 3:54 p.m. PST

Cuirassier,

Yeah that works. Mind you he's still got a problem. That flags got to go somewhere while he unhitches the sword knot to put that chunk of Klingenthal away!

Ceterman Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2017 9:01 a.m. PST

Cuirassier, Oh, sorry, I meant his OTHER right hand! And Trajanus, since he battle is over (I reckon…) he should be okay. Now if the fight was still on, that's a horse of a different color!

SJDonovan Inactive Member26 Mar 2017 4:04 a.m. PST

It's not as bad as the famous painting of Sergeant Ewart of the Scots Greys capturing the eagle of the 45th line. I reckon for Ewart to be able to have grabbed it like that the French guy would have had to be holding the flagstaff upside down.

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Marc at work26 Apr 2017 4:28 a.m. PST

I always imagined that pic showed the flag captured, and another French guy making a grab for it – hence hand so low on the staff. The flag bearer is wounded on the floor

SJDonovan Inactive Member26 Apr 2017 4:50 a.m. PST

Hi Marc,

I realise that the flag bearer is the guy on the floor and that another French soldier is trying to grab the flag back. It is the position of Ewart's hand that doesn't make sense to me. Unless he reached behind him and grabbed the staff then I think the only way he could have ended up holding it like that would have been if the flag bearer was holding it upside down in the first place.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP26 Apr 2017 5:08 a.m. PST

The artist had a predicament. He had to make sure the flag did not obscure the important action and the only way to do that was to have it diagonally, with the eagle behind Ewart…..assuming he had to show the deed in profile. That forces this awkward hold and you are right. It makes no sense.

Dighton did a good job on the RNBD uniforms. He was always much dodgier on the French. Very odd shaped shakos in many a picture

dibble26 Apr 2017 12:45 p.m. PST

Hmm!

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Paul

stephen116208 May 2017 2:55 a.m. PST

If you follow the link provided by dibble you'll see that one can purchase this painting in various print forms as well as a duvet cover, a shower curtain, throw pillows, phone cover, etc.
What can't you buy these days?

Stephen

Cuirassier01 Nov 2017 5:01 a.m. PST

This painting was sold by Sotheby's: link

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