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Personal logo Sapeur Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member21 Mar 2017 7:13 a.m. PST

Some assistance on the uniform of the Prussian Landwehr Pioneers please.
Have Calpe Miniature PL31 which I wish to paint up. Figure is in Schirmutze and Litewaka.
However David Nash The Prussian Army quotes"wore a black Kollet with dark blue collar, cuffs and shoulder straps piped in red. Shako was leather reinforced, fitted with metal chinscales and on front it was decorated by a white oval plate bearing crossed hammers below a Landwehr Cross"
Was this a very late uniform?
Comments please. Thanks

Oliver Schmidt21 Mar 2017 7:29 a.m. PST

The black uniform with blue facings is that of the Mansfelder Pionier-Bataillon.

picture

There were no Landwehr pioneer units.

Personal logo Sapeur Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member21 Mar 2017 7:41 a.m. PST

Thank you for the information.

The Duck of Death Inactive Member21 Mar 2017 4:43 p.m. PST

I think you may be talking about two different things. The picture above and Nash's book refer to an independent Pioneer Battalion, whereas the Calpe figure is actually a Regimental pioneer, which would wear the Schirmutze and Litewaka.

Camcleod21 Mar 2017 8:44 p.m. PST

The Calpe listing references a Brauer Uniformbogen Plate as the source.

Oliver Schmidt22 Mar 2017 1:17 a.m. PST

On Brauer plate 112, there is a "Zimmermann" (regimental carpenter) of the Silesian Landwehr (no regiment specified) depicted. He wears a long white French style apron and a full beard.

Special regimental pioneers had no role in the Prussian system (instead, in every company – Landwehr and line – a few men carried an axe or spade in addition to their musket and other equipment).

However, in the 1815 campaign the 23. Infanterie-Regiment had formed a section of "Zimmerleute" in each battalion, who had been drawn from the companies. These did not carry muskets, but axes in their hands and spades and pickaxes hung over their shoulders. And all of them had long aprons, the colour of which is not mentioned.

The Brauer plate is signed G. S. I presume this stands for Georg Schäfer, a uniformologist who sometimes embellished his sources (which he newer gives) with imagination. I can't prove he did it here as well.

Personal logo Sapeur Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member22 Mar 2017 2:32 a.m. PST

Where is it possible to see, or purchase, Brauer plate 112 please?

Oliver Schmidt22 Mar 2017 2:44 a.m. PST

send me an e-mail: sans-souci@gmx.de

Personal logo Sapeur Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member22 Mar 2017 2:53 a.m. PST

Thank you.Email sent.

Personal logo Sapeur Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member22 Mar 2017 3:23 a.m. PST

Your email received. Thank you

wrgmr122 Mar 2017 9:02 a.m. PST

I have some of the Calpe Landwehr figures. I painted some of the aprons off white, some leather brown.

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