Fireymonkeyboy | 19 Mar 2017 8:56 a.m. PST |
Hi, Looking for a book recommendation please. I need a good, accessible overview of the Peninsular War, ideally for a relative novice to the period. FMB |
Camcleod | 19 Mar 2017 9:00 a.m. PST |
The Osprey Essential History is a short overview: link |
Mserafin | 19 Mar 2017 9:11 a.m. PST |
I like this one: link This one is a better history (IMHO), but takes a bit more reading: link Hope this helps. Mark |
Brechtel198 | 19 Mar 2017 11:53 a.m. PST |
Both are good and useful books. |
Extra Crispy | 19 Mar 2017 12:00 p.m. PST |
Esdaile. Spanish Ulcer is good, but hindered by atrocious maps. |
dibble | 19 Mar 2017 2:50 p.m. PST |
This was my first ever book on the subject. link I've had mine for 42 years and cherish it above all (along with 'Mosquito' By Martin Sharp & Michael J.F. Bowyer) my other books. Easy to read with lots of plates, maps and pictures. Paul :) |
Trajanus | 19 Mar 2017 3:29 p.m. PST |
Gates was first published in 1986 and stylistically its showing its age. So I would go with Esdaile, who is also a bit more tuned to the Spanish side of things for my money. |
dibble | 19 Mar 2017 10:19 p.m. PST |
I would have chosen Esdaile if the person had already consumed books like gates' Spanish Ulcer but I think Esdaile's book is too sparse in visual details, too 'academic' in his telling and the text itself is very small. I'm sure that the O.P is thinking about a book that is easy going, tells a good general overview, uses maps and gives an idea of what the soldiery looked like, especially as it is surely aimed at someone who is starting out in the theme of that area of conflict, in a wargaming context. Paul :) |
Guthroth | 20 Mar 2017 1:28 a.m. PST |
This was my first real study of the period. link It's probably a bit dated now, but a decent overview of the period. |
4th Cuirassier | 20 Mar 2017 2:02 a.m. PST |
I found Esdaile unreadably dull. |
Footslogger | 20 Mar 2017 3:08 a.m. PST |
+1 to Dibble. "Military Dress of the Peninsular War" unlocked the whole campaign for me as a teenager and it has hardly dated at all. Poorly named, really, there's at least as much about the history as the uniforms. Only minuses, for me, it ended when Wellington's army crossed into France rather than at Napoleon's abdication, and it's a bit Anglo-centric. I too struggled with Esdaile; I found him a better speaker than writer. |
Whirlwind | 20 Mar 2017 3:27 a.m. PST |
I think Gates is very good for a novice. If you like maps and are comfortable with military terminology, but don't know much about the Peninsular War, this one is great: link |
Brechtel198 | 20 Mar 2017 3:47 a.m. PST |
Definitely. An excellent study and a proper companion to the Esposito/Elting Atlas which only covers Spain as far as Napoleon's campaign there. |
Le Breton | 20 Mar 2017 5:34 a.m. PST |
Not perfect, a bit anglo-centric on some points, but lots of info and very accessible (i.e. it's free!). A History of the Peninsular War Sir Charles William Chadwick Oman (1860-1946) v. 1. 1807-1809. From the treaty of Fontainebleau to the Battle of Corunna. v. 2. Jan.-Sept. 1809. From the Battle of Corunna to the end of the Talavera campaign. v. 3. Sept. 1809-Dec. 1810. Ocaña, Cadiz, Bussaco, Torres, Vedras. v. 4. Dec. 1810-Dec. 1811. Masséna's retreat, Fuentes de Oñoro, Albuera, Tarragona. v. 5. Oct. 1811-Aug. 31, 1812. Valencia, Ciudad Rodrigo, Badajoz, Salamanca, Madrid. v. 6. Sept. 1, 1812-August 5, 1813. The siege of Burgos; the retreat from Burgos; the campaign of Vittoria; the battles of the Pyrenees. v. 7. August 1813-April 14, 1814. The capture of St. Sebastian; Wellington's invasion of France;battles of the Nivelle, the Nive, Orthez and Toulouse Vol. I link Vol. II link Vol. III link Vol. IV link Vol. V link Vol. VI link Vol. VII link |
Westerner | 20 Mar 2017 6:01 a.m. PST |
For an introduction to the war, one way of avoiding an Anglo-centric bias is to read the lavishly illustrated Napoleon's War in Spain: French Peninsular Campaigns, 1807-14 by Henri Lachouque. I found it useful to gain an overview from the French perspective, not least because it covers and explains events far distant from British military intervention. It is, as I say, very generously illustrated, mainly with contemporary or later Nineteenth Century paintings and engravings, and some, to the English reader, quite obscure incidents are illustrated. There are some rather nice uniform plates in colour, too. The tone of some of the captions does border on comic, conveying a deep sense of unfairness that the, often rather unsporting, Spanish kept attacking the French and, sometimes, beating them.
So, in addition to dealing with the war from a French perspective (Talavera is merely an indecisive engagement of no great moment, if I recall), it goes a long way to help the English reader understand why the word "Chauvinist" is French. Mais, c'est Lachouque! If someone can point me to an English language general history that does justice to the Spanish point of view, I would be grateful. |
Trajanus | 20 Mar 2017 12:25 p.m. PST |
I wouldn't recommend Oman to a newcomer to the period it's just too heavy going. Miles and miles of description of terrain and the geographical detail of Spain at the time, internal Spanish goings on etc. Fantastic detail but way to long for anyone who is not already determined they want to find out as much as possible and so hard to follow with out a separate set of detailed maps as you read it. I would give a +1 to those who mentioned Lipscome's atlas on that count, although I only have the original not the updated edition. |
21eRegt | 20 Mar 2017 4:00 p.m. PST |
Another vote for the "Spanish Ulcer" by Gates. Yes, the lack of good maps and illustrations detracts but you can find those online. |
dibble | 21 Mar 2017 8:24 a.m. PST |
If Atlases are to go by, then yes, Lipscombes' tour de force is very good, but then I would point the beginner to Ian Robertson's compact little cracker equivalent too. And together with Ian Fletcher's The Peninsular War 'Wellingtons Battlefields Revisited' which is packed with fine photographs of the battlefields and his similar, earlier rendition, 'Fields of Fire' both of which really helps with the feel of the Peninsula, especially for those who can't visit, would make an excellent set. |
Trajanus | 21 Mar 2017 10:08 a.m. PST |
I would point the beginner to Ian Robertson's compact little cracker Heck, forgot that one and I have a copy too! That's "Wellington at War in the Peninisula 1808 – 1814 An Overview and Guide" Good for info on what the battlefields are like now but it needs to be said, as the title suggests, there's little on the activity of the Spanish themselves. |
Gazzola | 21 Mar 2017 12:20 p.m. PST |
Fireymonkeyboy As a starter and excellent overview, you won't go far wrong with The Spanish Ulcer by Gates. It also contains details on the battles between the French and Spanish, rather than just those between the British and French. I think a new paperback version is now available for around £12.00 GBP Great value in my opinion. |