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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP18 Mar 2017 9:42 p.m. PST

…Thought We Knew About the Roots of Western Civilization.

"They had been digging for days, shaded from the Greek sun by a square of green tarpaulin slung between olive trees. The archaeologists used picks to break the cream-colored clay, baked as hard as rock, until what began as a cluster of stones just visible in the dirt became four walls in a neat rectangle, sinking down into the earth. Little more than the occasional animal bone, however, came from the soil itself. On the morning of May 28, 2015, the sun gave way to an unseasonable drizzle. The pair digging that day, Flint Dibble and Alison Fields, waited for the rain to clear, then stepped down into their meter-deep hole and got to work. Dibble looked at Fields. "It's got to be soon," he said…"
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goragrad19 Mar 2017 12:07 a.m. PST


willlucv19 Mar 2017 1:06 a.m. PST

Agreed, cheers for posting. I like the plan of the grave, very visually appealing. I like the cultural integration theory expounded, contemporary ancient cultures were apparently often very respectful and accomodating of each others cultural beliefs.

JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2017 2:31 a.m. PST

A cracking find, be good to see the eventually restored items.

mollinary19 Mar 2017 3:14 a.m. PST

What a brilliant article! Fascinating stuff.


bruntonboy19 Mar 2017 6:06 a.m. PST

Good find, both the grave and the article. Thank you for posting the link. Probably the best thing I have ever seen here on TMP.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2017 3:26 p.m. PST

Happy you enjoyed it my friends!. (smile)


Come In Nighthawk Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2017 6:17 p.m. PST

Read this in h/c when our issue arrived in the mail (the "post" for our cousins across the pond). Quite a bit too much hype. E.G., I maybe should re-read the article, but I don't recall there being any mention of Linear B symbols on any of the pieces? THAT would be a great discovery! Still, it is clearly going to be important for what the contents of the grave can tell us when it's all properly conserved and examined in detail -- no doubt.

However, my first worry is, how many DECADES will these people take to publish their results? Archaeologists of late have been procrastinating -- frankly -- for disgustingly long! It's gotten so bad that in some cases countries have begun refusing to extend licences or grant new ones for "digs" until results from years ago are finally put in print! Secondly, "rewrite the history books?" Huh? Before the grave was found, didn't we already know about the "chieftains" living in "mansions" before the "palatial period?" About trade between Crete and the mainland? That the Mycenaean "chieftains" coveted Minoan art and "luxury goods?" Then again, the extent of two-way "cultural exchange" as opposed to Mycenaean "borrowings" from the Minoans, may yet prove interesting…

What struck me as real hype though was the "Bronze Age EU" nonsense… Right up there with Eric H. Cline's ideas about the collapse of a "globalized" Bronze Age "world" in _1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed_. Spare me… I find Robt. Drews' argument in _The End of the Bronze Age: Changes in Warfare and the Catastrophe ca. 1200 B.C._ more convincing.

I shall try to keep an open mind about this "dig" for now… But… if they can find a few more of these kinds of graves, preferably elsewhere in Greece in "other kingdoms," and that demonstrate the same characteristics, now THAT would be ground-breaking…

CeruLucifus19 Mar 2017 10:15 p.m. PST

Interesting article. Thank you.

willlucv20 Mar 2017 8:32 a.m. PST

I assume you have no experience of archaeology then Nighthawk?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Mar 2017 10:52 a.m. PST

Glad you like it too my friend!. (smile)


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