"New Dwarf steam pirates" Topic

I am not a fan of Dwarfs. The only dwarf figs I've ever seen that I liked were the Rakham dwarf berzerkers on boars and the Forge World Chaos Dwarfs but these new models are pretty cool.

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There are little dwarf balloonists or something:

Mobile artillery guys:

This character:

and then this awesome sky boat thing:

I am in no position to start a new army right now but I might have to get one of those ships anyway.

So, these are the AoS Dwarfs?

If so, I just might be about to get into AoS. I'm not much for the modern interpretation of 'Steam Punk' (Goggles, top hat, girdle, gears,) but these look pretty fantastic.

And I can forgive a lot when its MAGICAL steam! :D

This is quite a departure. I'm impressed.

This is one of 3 different factions of dwarfs in AoS (IIRC). I love those skyboat things.

Ok… those are extremely cool. I might have to start an AoS army too.

I have no particular interest in Dwarves, especially 'silly' ones, or AoS.

But having said all of that, they look really, really good.

John T

GW's gone full Victorian Science Fiction with the new Duardin. All the anti-GW people on TMP who revere their 80's Olley sculpts are about to have a seizure as they won't know what to do

They will still bash it. They can't even see what is in front of them, they see GW with only hate-tinted glasses. If they can still bash GW after all of the changes made in the last 20 months they can bash these dwarfs.

That one guy has a metal top hat and guns (guns!) in his metal mustache.

Pictors, my brother just made a prediction:

"I can get a bag of 100 plastic steampunk dwarves at the dollar store and those are good enough. oh and they won't cost hundreds of dollars either. oh and they're better sculpts than this new GW ripoff"

Are these for 40k or AoS?

Awesome. In design terms these are putting the bar higher than it was.

With the Khornates and Tzeentchians refining their respective looks well beyond that of generic with particular bits; with the whole new design for the Sigmarines, who get fantastic minis with every release (have you looked at the cavalry?); with the nice twist to berserk dwarves that the gave birth to Fyreslayers and now these astounding steampunk pirates (literally, they are air steampunk armoured pirates!), AoS have absolutely reworked and resurrected the GW fantasy game.

BTW. A little kitbashing and you'll have squats for 40K.

Quoting myself from a discussion on just the ship:
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Not sure I'd use it; more like interesting Steampunk art. Worth a peek, might borrow parts, move on.

Unlike [others here], I'm rather down with things dwarven, including VSF, but my never-completed project had all earthbound lads.
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Ah, the secret wars in the wilds of Ruritania…

Doug

I am a dwarf fanatic.

I don't like these, but I recognize the style is somewhat contemporary and others may. I'm more of a classic GW/Black Tree Design/Scibor kinda guy. And yes, I love Bob Olley's Dwarfs, as well as Nick Lund's old Grenadier stuff..

That being said, I really like the airship.

All the anti-GW people on TMP who revere their 80's Olley sculpts are about to have a seizure as they won't know what to do

You're thinking of the Perrys. Olley's 80's dwarves all looked like goats. But he got better.

Nice models, but I still prefer dwarves who live under a mountain and who are, perhaps, distrustful of the open sky. These guys are exactly the opposite! :)

Hey a winner for a new Age of Sigmar release. I am legitimately surprised. The only ones I don't like aesthetically are the ones on foot with the gigantic 40k guns (though if you want Squats. . . )

However, for fans of Dwarves from the old Warhammer World I doubt these will make any real friends.

Still, some nice characterful models here and that's worthy of praise, if nothing else.

Not my kind of dwarf, but they look fun. I am imagining the guys hanging from balloons dangling their feet in the air.

andy

I am COMPLETELY buying about three of the Dwarven Aeronefs.

I think I will be buying Mustache Mac Gun. Hello Forgefather with Jump Pack and Terminator Armour.

That one guy has a metal top hat and guns (guns!) in his metal mustache.

Plus a Chainsword.

If they can still bash GW after all of the changes made in the last 20 months they can bash these dwarfs.

Yes I can still bash GW for the changes that they have done and for many of the really over the top, overpriced miniatures that they are putting out these days.

So I will stick with these.

They at least look like Fantasy Dwarves instead of these Steam Punk Dwarves.

Oh way more cheaper as well.

Hey Judge Doug, I hope you didn't bet your brother against his prediction.

I finally went to the link in the OP. Must say, rather prefer the other two 'nef's', after re-purposing the upper crap.

Certains, more to my taste than the GyroBomber.

Doug

Not what I am looking for in Dwarf models, but an interesting idea well executed.

Damn, and I'd just started on Lizards for AoS!

Pictors – oh no, not at all :D

I wonder how Mithmee reacted to Mantic's price increase (while GW cut prices?) hehe

Do not care since I already enough Dwarves from them plus any price increase from Mantic would still end up with cheaper miniatures than GW.

Those Mantic dwarves' heads are so flat and wide… just really weird looking. I like the KoW rules and I was trying to buy a mantic army from our local store since they were so good as to stock KoW for us…. but I could not find anything in their range that looked decent to me. These don't even look as good as GW miniatures from the early 90s. I just couldn't do it.

Funny they look almost like the Dwarves from the Last Hobbit Movie.

They at least look like Dwarves while those Steampunk ones above don't.

Ummm…. wut?

Purely from a VSF aircraft/ship point of view I will look into contacting GW bits suppliers for the hulls and bits of decking and weapons. Not interested in the wee men or their metal "ballooney" things.

It wouldn't be worth buying the whole box as I can't be bothered in selling off the bits I wouldn't want on flee bay etc.

Interesting sculpts but I don't do GW for many reasons though as I've said before they are talented if greedy etc etc etc.

DL, I suggested the 'ballooney things'[if you meant the parts the hulls are suspended from] might make good tripods. Would that help?

Doug

Yes that's what I meant Mr Beast,I've filled my tripod quota. They wouldn't really fit with my Space 1889 look. They would be almost half the sprues in a box so a bit pricey to leave to one side.

I'll wait till the online "bits" companies start stripping kits for resale.

Ummm…. wut?

Not those Dwarves

These Dwarves I.E. the ones behind Dain

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They look like Dwarves while those GW ones don't.

GW is moving further and further away from Fantasy.

But they have a reason for it since they got their asses handed to them in the Chapterhouse lawsuit.

Which is why they are creating miniatures that I have no desire for.

Over the top and Over Priced.

They are not moving further away from fantasy, they are moving further into it. WHFB was basically a historical game in 5th and 6th edition with magic. Troops formed ranks, wheeled, moved in formations and so on. Terrain was slightly fantasy-ish, had little effect on the game other than being an obstacle.

Now it is completely fantasy. There is little resemblance to the Earth in the Realms unless you want there to be. We don't have a pseudo medieval earth with fantasy dressing, we have volcanoes and spew entrails, floating islands, sentient magma pools and monsters that are so huge you could play battles on top of their heads.

That is not moving further away from fantasy.

As usual, you have it exactly wrong.

…I will look into contacting GW bits suppliers for the hulls and bits of decking and weapons…

Why do you think I tried to talk you into buying a whole kit? I don't need the bitz buyer competition. ;->=

Doug

I walked into that trap ;) lol

Nice miniatures but not something i need. This artwork for them is pretty impressive –

GW is moving further and further away from Fantasy

It is just a differant type of fantasy that is easier to copyright.
Athough it changed a lot over the years WFB was still based on Tolkien style Fantasy and was difficult for GW to stop others producing similar minitures as orcs, elves etc.
AoS is more like angels vs demons religious fantasy.
Funny how 40k was originally just WFB in space and it has now gone full circle with AoS being drawn from the religious side of 40k (god/emperor,inquisitors against chaos demons style).

I strongly agree with Pictors here.

I truly do not understand the continuing backlash against GW for making the decisions they are making. They are moving further into pure fantasy. SO WHAT? Why is it viewed as such a horrible sin?

It brings more variety to the fantasy gaming world. That's always a good thing, isn't it?

As Pictors said, earlier editions of Warhammer were more closely based to historical with magic. 8th Edition began to move more towards fantasy but while still retaining huge horde formations to honor the mass-battle aspect of the game.

So GW took something that had a THIRTY year run – Warhammer – THIRTY year run – and it had finally run its course! After THIRTY years! How is that a "failure"?

And in 2015 GW took the bold step and shook everything up and went in a totally new direction. Cool!

Personally, I love the more historical-type Warhammer of the earlier days. I still like playing those older editions of the game, 3rd, 5th, 6th.

But that doesn't mean I have to condemn and despise what GW is doing now. There was a time when I would have totally rejected this kind of miniature aesthetic AOS has.

But now I appreciate it for its creativity and for the constant, amazing improvements in detail with their plastics technology.

This is simply another part of the journey, another part of the story. I just think GW is the most convenient punching bag in the wargaming industry, and they are picked on by default, simply because people can.

Plus of their long history of screwing over their customers.

I have never been screwed over by Games Workshop, and I've been an off-and-on customer of theirs since 1994 or so. Why don't you take this opportunity to share some stories with us Mithmee of how Games workshop screwed you over?

Hilarious….

Better yet, why don't the folks showing off what they like about GW do that without provoking Mithmee, and why doesn't Mithmee talk about the stuff he likes in threads about that, without badmouthing the thing he's not into anymore?

I'm finding myself looking into GW stuff more lately, and I read more AoS reports than I ever did the previous version. My fantasy figures are more LotR style, but they've got me interested enough to look.

EDIT: Sorry, the first paragraph came across as more preachy than intended. I certainly think it is fine to disagree. But so many of these threads go from personal comments about a topic to rehashing a personal argument.

andy

It's an interesting direction they decided to take the dwarves in, that's for sure. They have done steampunkish stuff before (goblin hewer comes to mind) as well as airships, but this is just a bit too over the top for my personal tastes. Which is a shame, because I think the idea of some Jules Verne dwarves is a pretty good one and there are some things that I like in those models-probably the first duckbill gun I have ever seen on a miniature!

I don't think this is the faction that's going to draw me into AOS, but it's nice to see AOS becoming more of its own thing though.

EDIT: Sorry, the first paragraph came across as more preachy than intended.

Not to worry, preachy about an abundance of preachy seemed fitting. ;->=

I co-own a store for which GW is bread-and-butter; that said, I understand a lot of the 'bashing'. I also recognize the passion of the fanboys.

Bit silly to complain about either…

Doug