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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2017 1:13 p.m. PST

…and the American Revolution in the West.

"Taking a short break from talking about the book artists, a little bit about the book contents. The book is 328 pages large format book in all color with a few hundred images (new art, maps, prints, museum photos, etc) but that includes over 22 pages of endnotes (footnotes at the end) necessary for an in depth look at this history…."


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marco56 Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2017 8:08 a.m. PST

I don't see this at amazon .Is it new?

axabrax Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2017 8:53 a.m. PST

Too bad none of the modern manufacturers make 28mm Spanish. This looks like a super interesting theater.

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2017 7:09 p.m. PST

I agree.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2017 9:21 p.m. PST

Glad you like it boys!. (smile)


11th ACR14 Mar 2017 9:13 p.m. PST

Historifigs, the old Scruby miniatures line) make Spanish in 28mm. There a newer line of there's. They look pretty good.



Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP15 Mar 2017 6:29 p.m. PST

I'll have to get some.

Stever18 Mar 2017 8:27 a.m. PST

Author here. Did not know someone posted this. The Spanish used a combination of regulars from Spain, fixed regiments (local regulars) and militia in North America. Colonial defense was completely reorganized after the disaster of the Seven Years War. The defense of St. Louis was by a small detachment of fixed regiment troops, a few hundred infantry militia and a small cavalry militia company. The strike force against St. Joseph was all local militia and a few area traders. Many of the militia were hunters and boatmen skilled in rough terrain movement and the ones used for offensive operations. Galvez used fixed regiment troops and Louisiana militia for his Mississippi River campaigns and later also had regulars from Spain in his gulf coast campaigns plus some French. The Spanish and French also had a planned invasion of Jamaica and the Spanish with some American help took the Bahamas Islands. I have all of these campaigns covered in the book.

axabrax Supporting Member of TMP18 Mar 2017 9:50 a.m. PST

So it sounds like maybe one could get away with just using standard Revwar militia for these battles plus perhaps some FiW frontiersmen or maybe mountain men types against standard British. Pepper this with some Spanish officers and you're good to go. I notice that the Indians from the cover have more of a plains look to them rather than woodland. Maybe convert some of the plains Indians available to use muskets instead of winchesters or give some woodland Indians plains Indian heads. I would love to see someone do a dedicated range for this. Maybe the Perry's will read the book and decide they want to game it…

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2017 10:41 a.m. PST

When is this due out?

Stever24 Apr 2017 1:51 p.m. PST

Pre-orders can be made here: link

The book will be officially released on May 21 at the Missouri History Museum annual commemoration of the battle. The pre-orders will be shipped out in order received after the commemoration.

The table of contents is listed on the pre-order page.

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP05 May 2017 11:29 a.m. PST

I have my pre-order in.

Stever05 May 2017 3:01 p.m. PST

Thanks Mark. The book will be released right after my talk on it at the Missouri History Museum on May 21. I have some pictures from the book up on the FB page and will be posting more this weekend.

Stever24 May 2017 6:39 a.m. PST

The book is now available and can be ordered here:


We still some special book marks left and will include those with purchases while they last.

Steelkilt24 May 2017 7:20 a.m. PST

The book looks great, Stever. It's a bit pricey for me, but I'll request that the Toronto Public Library acquire a copy. In the meantime, I've added it to my WorldCat bibliography:

marco56 Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2017 4:12 p.m. PST

Received mine yesterday and it's a beautiful book and would enhance anyone's collection.

Stever23 Jun 2017 4:04 p.m. PST

I will be at George Rogers Clark National Historical Park on Saturday speaking about the book in their auditorium if anyone in the area is interested.

42flanker23 Jun 2017 4:48 p.m. PST

I just finished re- reading Robert Thom's "Long Knife" afterfor first time since I got it. Not bad for a historical novel. Does it stand up to C21st scrutiny?

42flanker24 Jun 2017 2:08 a.m. PST

Um- 'Robert'? Who's 'Robert'

The author was James Alexander Thom.

RudyNelson25 Jun 2017 8:43 p.m. PST

I covered that battle in my articles on loyalist forces, Spanish operations and Native First Nation forces. It kept being mentioned so I researched it and enjoyed the various articles that I found.
Great small and skirmish battle scenario.

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