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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian08 Mar 2017 7:13 p.m. PST

An army spokesman on Wednesday urged people to stop foraging for scrap metal on land reserved for live-fire weapons drills following the death of a scavenger in the northeast earlier this week…

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Charlie 1208 Mar 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

Darwin Award in action….

Sundance Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2017 7:23 p.m. PST

Stupid is as stupid does.

zoneofcontrol08 Mar 2017 8:01 p.m. PST

If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning…

SouthernPhantom08 Mar 2017 8:42 p.m. PST

Mining range berms for lead and copper is a pretty normal practice. I've always figured that you could rig up something like a gold wash plant that recycled its process water, and run the berm dirt through it with shovels or a skid-steer. Melt the lead down, skim the copper jackets off the surface of the molten lead, sell lead and copper ingots.

goragrad09 Mar 2017 4:17 a.m. PST

As noted by SouthernPhantom, that scrap is worth money and, particularly with the lead, something that shouldn't be left to contaminate the areas.

Seems that what the Army needs to do is schedule some times when people could do that cleanup for them.

Of course rather like Coors in Golden, CO when they sold the land were their security had a firing range what they will do instead is pay a hazardous materials cleanup company premium rates to clan the area up at some point in the future (at taxpayer expense).

Back when that Coors range was in operation some people would come in when it wasn't in use with shovels and screens and get spent bullets for recasting their own bullets. When it was sold it was a high dollar environmental cleanup operation with all of the white suits and respirators. The scrap probably ended up buried in one of the licensed facilities along with the contaminated soil rather than being recycled.

What a waste of resources…

Sundance Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2017 5:21 a.m. PST

Going after spent small arms ammunition is understandable. What they're talking about here is people exploring artillery and other munitions ranges for scrap metal. Unexploded ammunition is a real hazard on those ranges. There's a reason they're off limits.

Toaster09 Mar 2017 3:45 p.m. PST

Yep Sundance has it right, most modern militaries do have recycling programs for the butts of their small arms ranges, but you can't do that with artillery ranges. EOD does regular checks but they can't get it all and even they can get it wrong. NZDF lost a guy a few years back, best guess is that when he hammered a marker flag into the ground to indicate a blind for the disposal team he hit a second buried shell.
Most guys scavenging artillery ranges tend to be souvenir hunters rather than recyclers also so even less care and more ooh shiny I'll grab that.

Robert

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