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Field Marshal01 Mar 2017 4:47 p.m. PST

I would like to start a project using Sharp Practice for early in the 19th century. At my club we do Napoleonics and ACW primarily for the period. I would like something different for the skirmish style of SP. There are so many to chose from, Carlist Wars, Cape Wars, Seminole Wars, Texas Independence, South America and so on. Any suggestions or help in narrowing down the field?

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Mar 2017 4:59 p.m. PST

Carlist Wars uniforms are awesome, and very different. If you game the Peninsular War all your terrain carries over.

South America too has such a great cast of characters. I have some 18mm figures for that period I'd let go pretty cheap.

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2017 5:10 p.m. PST

If you do the American War of 1812, you can leverage your Napoleonic British. You can also add in the Native Americans who fought on both sides and they will give you some of the same aspects as the Seminole Wars. Check out the Creek War where Andrew Jackson made his name. The small size of most of the actions of the war lend themselves very well to SP. There are also naval landing parties by the British on the New England and Maryland coasts and loads of skirmishes in the Canadian forests.

Field Marshal01 Mar 2017 5:26 p.m. PST

Great suggestions thus far….I must admit Carlist war is very tempting but I love the black powder American Indian stuff as well

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2017 5:27 p.m. PST

The Balkans.

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2017 6:00 p.m. PST

If you do the Creek War you get Andrew Jackson AND Davy Crockett. It would be just like The Wonderful World of Disney on your Wargames table.

wrgmr101 Mar 2017 6:11 p.m. PST

Second vote for war of 1812, Canadians and Americans.

cavcrazy01 Mar 2017 6:24 p.m. PST

Black Hawk war

Mad Guru Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2017 8:46 p.m. PST

I've always wanted to do Napoleon in Egypt. A small skirmish level project would be a great way to start.

rmaker01 Mar 2017 8:57 p.m. PST

How about the Belgian secession form the Netherlands? Or the Russo-Turkish War in the 1820's? Or the Greek Independence War? The 1830's Polish Revolt? Lots of good stuff we don't usually ear about.

Frothers Did It And Ran Away02 Mar 2017 12:06 a.m. PST

Sikh Wars, 1st Afghan War, French in Algeria?

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 1:08 a.m. PST

The French in Spain in 1823, the 'One Hundred Thousand Sons of Saint Louis'.

Zargon Inactive Member02 Mar 2017 1:36 a.m. PST

Greeks vrs Turks, you can play them scrapping over the Parthenon, while Lord Elgin safely spirits away the Marbles for future posterity, some nice interesting uniforms and national dress for both sides. Ελευθερία ή θάνατος.

Field Marshal02 Mar 2017 1:42 a.m. PST

Some great ideas alas some may be hard to find figures though!

KTravlos Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 3:13 a.m. PST

Depending on scale you would be suprised what is available. For example in 28mm for Greek Revolution Steve Barber has a good range.

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He also has ranges for many other less well-traveled periods like the 1848-1849 revolutions and the Polish-Russian War. All commisioned by Shipka.

Also look at the past theme files for my FB Group. Each has lists of scales and manufacturers

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Personal logo McLaddie Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 8:06 a.m. PST

One of the least known, but largest wars of the first half of the 19th century is the Hungarian Revolution, 1848-1849. Hundreds of thousands of troops and terrific uniforms.

A Lot of small battles and guerrilla actions with more colorful uniforms and ethnic dress than you can count.

sjwalker38 Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 8:55 a.m. PST

I'm trying to resist the 1812 American war using Brigade 28mm and the new TFL guide.

sjwalker38 Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 1:05 p.m. PST

Don't forget Washington's War against the Ohio Indians.

daler240D Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 2:17 p.m. PST

1st Schleswig-Holstein War.

coolyork Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2017 4:02 p.m. PST

South American Wars of Liberation

Swab Jockey02 Mar 2017 7:16 p.m. PST

The Patriot War of Florida 1811 to 1813

Durando03 Mar 2017 7:37 a.m. PST

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The Greek War of Independence 1821

mghFond03 Mar 2017 2:12 p.m. PST

Totally agree with MacLaddie, in fact I've gone and done it – painted up both Austrians and Hungarians for that fascinating and large scale war seldom covered. If you play BBB rules, there are now scenarios out there for some of the battles, all free too on the BBB site.

KTravlos Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2017 2:41 p.m. PST

and you can use BBB scenarios for any other grand tactical system you prefer. So worth looking even if you are not BBB.

Clays Russians04 Mar 2017 6:26 a.m. PST

Russians versus miscreants along the fringes of the empire in the smelly stinky 'Stans' – and yes they really do stink…. And they have these hornets the size of Minie balls that get pissed off real easy----- dreadful place

Clays Russians04 Mar 2017 6:27 a.m. PST

But- add a plug- War of 1812 really has an undeserved under appreciation. Sharp's and TSATF would be absolutely ideal for this, if you use TSATF, of course you can't butcher the wounded.

deflatermouse04 Mar 2017 11:09 p.m. PST

How about the Maori wars of 1845 ?
There's a fellow who has done a load about it for Sharp Practice.
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More from His blog
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You can also get 15mm figs (my choice) or the lovely range from Empress.

Rusty Gold23 Apr 2017 7:12 a.m. PST

Who can forget the Anglo India wars in History ? Then the range Of Lead at Wargames Foundry might inspire you into one or the other ?

Durando23 Apr 2017 11:24 a.m. PST

Seminole Wars

Smokey Roan Inactive Member24 Apr 2017 2:11 p.m. PST

Seminole Wars. Gives you a bunch of other scenarios as well. 1812, Creek War, , just a bunch of stuff, for only adding some more units.

Nine pound round29 Apr 2017 5:34 p.m. PST

The adventures of Harry Flashman- Second Afghan War, Second Sikh War, Africa, America, you name it. Only two victory conditions: don't die, and don't get caught.

And please tell the forum if you figure out where San Serafino is.

mrinku30 Apr 2017 1:25 p.m. PST

Someone mentioned Cape Wars… worth mentioning that Perry Miniatures has a growing range for those in 28mm.

WillieB Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2017 1:50 a.m. PST

As far as big skirmishes and variety are concerned you can't get any better than the Indian Mutiny, but of course that's not exactly 'early' 19th C. The Lucknow campaign alone will provide you with so many scenarios you'll never be able to play them all.
Huge range of high quality figures available, extremely colourful, and for once an adversary that proved as tough as they come. BTW Sharp Practice has rudimentary lists for this.

Someone mentioned the Belgian Independence War. I've looked into this – obviously- and while you can get fair approximations of most of the soldiers involved from either Napoleonic ranges or even Carlists Wars, you can never get them exactly right.

Same goes for the equally fascinating and again colourful Greek Turkish Wars.

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