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14Bore Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2017 2:51 p.m. PST

Really hate to ask but what was makeup of his corp? Its in a book I have but can't figure where. A link or list will do. Did search here and nothing came up which I thought was strange.

14Bore Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2017 2:51 p.m. PST

Really hate to ask but what was makeup of his corp? Its in a book I have but can't figure where. A link or list will do. Did search here and nothing came up which I thought was strange.

14Bore Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2017 2:52 p.m. PST

Really hate to ask but what was makeup of his corp? Its in a book I have but can't figure where. A link or list will do. Did search here and nothing came up which I thought was strange.

Major Bloodnok26 Feb 2017 4:49 p.m. PST

It depends when, it was a right odds & sods mix. Hanoverians, Russo-German Legion, Swedes, Hanseatic Legion, KGL, Luetzow's Freikorps, Mecklinburgers, KGL, 73rd Highlanders (not kilted), Cossacks, and a rocket bty.

PDF link

14Bore Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2017 6:13 p.m. PST

Thats it Maj, I have most of these but want to see what I am missing.
Made my 73 in trews, right or wrong.

gprokopo26 Feb 2017 6:21 p.m. PST

"Corp" is not a word. The singular of "corps" is "corps," e.g. US Marine Corps.

Back to the question.

Guthroth27 Feb 2017 12:14 a.m. PST

You can't get bored with Wallmodens army. Not the best troops, but you can add Russians, Prussians or Swedes to give them a bit of a boost.

Footslogger27 Feb 2017 2:35 a.m. PST

Here's an OOB I had for Wallmoden's Corps at the Battle of the Gohrde, 16th Sept. 1813:

Allied Forces

Commanding General: Generallieutenant Count Wallmoden-Simborn

Left (1st) Division: Colonel Frederich von Arentschildt

1st Brigade: Major von Natzmer
1st Battalion, Russo-German Legion (14/663)
2nd Battalion, Russo-German Legion (19/662)
5th Battalion, Russo-German Legion (11/483)

2nd Brigade: Oberstleutnant von Wardenburg
3rd Battalion, Russo-German Legion (16/772)
4th Battalion, Russo-German Legion (17/661)
6th Battalion, Russo-German Legion (16/506)

1st Hussar Regiment, Russo-German Legion (23/575)

1st RGL Horse Battery (8 guns) – Scheele
Erlenbusch Foot Battery (8 guns)
Total Artillery (9/337)

Center (2nd) Division: Generalmajor von Tettenborn
Combined Jäger Battalion
Kielmannsegge Hanoverian Battalion (2 cos)(157)
Jäger Company, Russo-German Legion (2/100)
Reiche Jäger Battalion **
Staalts Foot Battalion
von Lützow Freikorps **
** (Total 1,470 for von Lützow infantry)

von Lützow Freikorps Cavalry (5)(427)
Komissarov #1 Cossack Regiment (394)
Sulima #9 Cossack Regiment ***
Denisov #7 Cossack Regiment ***
*** (602 men)
Hanseatic Horse Battery, Cpt. Spoorman (4 guns)(115)

Right (3rd) Division: Major General Lyon

Light Brigade: Lt. Colonel Martin
Bremen and Verden Battalion (8 cos)*
73rd Highland Foot Regiment (500)
Anhalt-Dessau Battalion (534)

Line Brigade: Lt.Colonel Halkett
von Langsohr Battalion (8 cos)*
von Bennigsen Battalion (6 cos)*
Lauenberg Battalion (8 cos)*
* (Total 2,554)
KGL Composite Battalion von Holtzermann (16/200)
(Dets from 1st & 2nd Light Bns & 5th Line Bn)
Foot Battery von Wiering, (6 guns)(161)

4th (Cavalry) Division: Generalmajor von Dörnberg
3rd KGL Hussar Regiment (5 sqns)(805)
Lüneburg Hussar Regiment (2 sqns)(240)
Bremen and Verden Hussar Regiment (1)(180)
Horse Artillery Brigade: Major Brückman
2nd KGL Horse Battery, von Hulmann (6 guns)
1st KGL Horse Battery, von Sympher (6 guns)
British Rocket Battery (Half Troop) Lt. Strangways
(16 rocket launchers)
Total Artillery (390)
2nd Russo-German Legion Battery von Tiedemann (8 guns)

Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2017 11:55 a.m. PST

While I knew that Wallmoden had a mixed bag of troops, that is CRAZY the amount of nationalities in that corps.

Is there an OOB for the opposing French at Göhrde?

Footslogger27 Feb 2017 12:06 p.m. PST

A lot simpler!

French Forces

50th Division (Mobile): Général de division Pécheux

Brigade: Général de brigade Mielzinski
2/3rd Line Regiment (21/432)
3/3rd Line Regiment (10/472)
4/3rd Line Regiment (13/488)
6/3rd Line Regiment (9/789)
3/105th Line Regiment (10/719)
6/105th Line Regiment (6/620)

Artillery
12/9th Foot Artillery (2/90)
(6-6pdrs & 2-24pdr howitzers)
Det. 4/5th (bis) Train Battalion (0/103)

Attached:
2/28th Chasseur à Cheval Regiment (8/73/101)

Footslogger27 Feb 2017 12:12 p.m. PST

Part of the interest for me in Wallmoden's corps – and other British efforts, e.g. in Holland – is spotting the commanders and units that appear later in the Waterloo OOB.

14Bore Supporting Member of TMP11 Mar 2017 1:43 p.m. PST

Found where I had it George Nafziger's Napoleon at Leipzig The Battle of the Nations 1813.

Draccan12 Mar 2017 4:48 p.m. PST

I wonder what the correct models would be for Hanoverians from Wallmodens corps.
Perry has some Hanoverians in their British line… are these suitable?

Also for the german-russo parts of his army, what would be the most appropriate uniforms; Prussian or Russian?

Footslogger13 Mar 2017 2:48 a.m. PST

Russo-German Legion, AFAIK, in Russian uniform.

Can't comment knowledgably on Hannoverian, but for newly raised units, I'd go for British kit hastily bundled up and sent over. So yes, I'd use Perry.

Rod MacArthur13 Mar 2017 5:41 a.m. PST

There is a famous picture of the Bennigsen battalion at the Battle of the Goehrde charging forward in British uniform but with white shakos (apparently normally issued for tropical use). If you Google it then you should be able to find it.

If you Google the various other Hanoverian battalions you will come up with various illustrations. Some of the Hanoverian battalions originally wore Prussian Landwehr style uniforms but later switched to British.

The Russo-German Legion became the 30th and 31st Prussian Regiments and were still wearing their Russian style uniforms during the Waterloo Campaign. There are illustrations of them in both the Blandford Uniforms of Waterloo and the Ospreys on the Prussian Army. Von Lutzow's Friekorps became the 25th Prussian Regiment during the Waterloo Campaign, again still wearing their famous black uniforms.

Camcleod13 Mar 2017 9:12 a.m. PST

Gallica has a nice booklet of plates by Ridder of the Hanoverian troops 1813-15:

link

Draccan13 Mar 2017 5:49 p.m. PST

great input
thanks

Camcleod13 Mar 2017 7:37 p.m. PST

A couple notes on that O.B. and the Hanoverian regts.

von Langsohr Battalion (8 cos)*
Actually should be Langrehr, also known as Bn. Roehl which later became Hoya.

von Bennigsen Battalion (6 cos)*
Later became Verden as shown on a Knotel plate:
link

Footslogger14 Mar 2017 4:06 a.m. PST

Thanks, that's helpful.

von Winterfeldt14 Mar 2017 4:58 a.m. PST

in case – a lot of nice pictures in colour in

Hemmann, Thomas : Die Dömitzer Bilderhandschrift aus dem Jahr 1813

books on demand, excellent value for money

Guthroth14 Mar 2017 6:23 a.m. PST

That book at Gallica is an excellent find. I was planning to do Wallmodens Corps -again- and that book will become an excellent starting point.

14Bore Supporting Member of TMP14 Mar 2017 1:41 p.m. PST

I went with British uniforms for my Hanoverians, simple Prussians for my Anhalt

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