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Tango0120 Feb 2017 4:05 p.m. PST

…Medieval Era.


Swordpoint is Gripping Beast's new big battle rules for the ancient and medieval period. This is a pretty crowded space, but one chased by many WAB gamers looking for a replacement.

You certainly get a very nice rule book, with the production values you would expect from Gripping Beast. Plenty of eye candy, but not overly gratuitous.

Units are made up of variable numbers of bases. Typically 4 figures to a base for foot, 2 for cavalry and 2 for skirmishers. The 4 to a base (in two ranks, 40mm x 40mm) for foot is a bit irritating for us ex-wabbers who usually start with 3 to base on a 60mm frontage. However, as a typical unit will have six bases it's not a huge problem and doesn't require rebasing. There are a number of army lists in the main rulebook to get you going and the first separate book is for the Dark Ages. The standard army is 1000 points and that means around 150-200 figures a side on a 6' x 4' table. The profiles for each base are much simpler than many rules with factors for defence and cohesion only…"

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Full review here
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evilgong20 Feb 2017 7:56 p.m. PST

So what I got out of that review was:

Armies of approx 8-14 units each mostly of 6 stands of figs.

'Command' by a PIP system but with simultaneous moves (I wonder how that works in practice), not sure if PIPs are for any/all moves or if they are PIP-free.

Combat by hits-and-saves, some requiring a % throw. Stand removal.

Unusual feature combat hits on a unit might be dispursed to neighbours.


David F Brown.

arsbelli21 Feb 2017 10:03 a.m. PST

Momentum tokens in Swordpoint are not really like 'PIPs' in DBA. Rather, they function as 'bonus points' that can be tactically employed to acquire a possible edge in initiative and combat resolution.

crazycaptain21 Feb 2017 1:52 p.m. PST

Sort of like War and Conquest?

arsbelli22 Feb 2017 9:22 a.m. PST

Momentum tokens work a little like the Strategy Intervention Points in WAC, but are also rather different. Swordpoint is very much its own rule set.

More info here: link

And the official Swordpoint discussion forum may be found here: link

Volgan18 Dec 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

Sorry to plow a little puff into this thread but how do four figures look on a 40 by 40 base. Seems damned small to me.

Bob Runnicles22 Dec 2017 11:28 a.m. PST

They look fine – DBx uses 4 figures on a 60mm frontage for dense infantry and that looks good. 20x20 is the WAB standard for foot infantry so 4 figures on 40x40 shouldn't be a problem.

BelgianRay Inactive Member22 Dec 2017 12:51 p.m. PST

Might be interesting for DBX players and the like but I do not see any interest for it from WAB people.

arsbelli22 Dec 2017 4:45 p.m. PST

My observation is that most of the UK Swordpoint players, including author Martin Gibbins, are in fact 'WAB people.' Just look at the 2018 tournament schedule thus far:

SWORDPOINT BEACHHEAD 2018: BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET, UK: 17 FEBRUARY 2018
Classical period 28mm 1000 pts 6' x 4' table

SWORDPOINT MEDIEVAL BASH: SWINDON, WILTSHIRE, UK: 17-18 FEBRUARY 2018
Medieval period 28mm 1000 pts 6' x 4' table

SWORDPOINT COLD STEEL OPEN EVENT: CARDIFF, WALES, UK: APRIL/MAY 2018
Open 28mm 1000 pts 6' x 4' table

PORTSMOUTH PILLAGE: HORNDEAN, HAMPSHIRE, UK: 11-12 AUGUST 2018
Classical period 28mm 500, 1000 & 1500 pts 6' x 4' table

The above list doesn't yet include the Swordpoint events for Derby Worlds in October or Warfare in November, which were quite well attended in 2017. And then there are all of the individual gamers like myself, who play Swordpoint with different-sized figures and/or using personal scenarios rather than tournament competitions.

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