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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 7:03 a.m. PST

I haven't seen this posted yet, but Warlord has released infantry, cav., and arty for the WSS range.

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Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian17 Feb 2017 7:40 a.m. PST

Along with quite a price hike, if I am not mistaken. Now you get 24 instead of 36 infantry for slightly more than the cost of the old 36 figure box, the cavalry is about 30% more expensive for the same number of figures, and you have to buy two boxes of artillery if you want batteries with an even number of guns.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 8:04 a.m. PST

Yes, I believe the old boxes were 36 infantry for $20 USD or $25 USD, or something like that. The old boxes also had a greater variety of headgear.

Ogdenlulimus17 Feb 2017 8:13 a.m. PST

The Warlord folks seem to do this same "less costs more" roll out whenever they absorb another miniatures company. Happened with Cuttung Edge Biblicals as well.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 8:40 a.m. PST

Well, to be fair the artillery battery has one more gun and they are providing standards with the sets

That being said I did like the 36 fig boxes because with the extra heads I could build a converged grenadier battalion with two infantry battalions from two boxes

DGT12317 Feb 2017 9:16 a.m. PST

Anyone know if they will be doing French WSS plastics with the front cartride boxes?

Son of MOOG17 Feb 2017 10:15 a.m. PST

I am waiting to see if they ever do French Dragoons. You could fake them as mounted but were completely out of luck for the dismounted. To a lesser degree the same is true with the British Dragoons (if you ever wanted to have them dismounted).

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 10:31 a.m. PST

I doubt they'll add anything to the range. Simply release as it was for more money. And that will be that.

Personal logo ageofglory Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 10:55 a.m. PST

Are these re-issued Wargames Factory figures?

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 11:08 a.m. PST

Yes. With less figures for more money.

General Kirchner Inactive Member17 Feb 2017 11:46 a.m. PST

did they change the sprues to be more muskets? the old sprues had more options and other figs than just what is mentioned for options with the 4 command figs.

also at 24 strong battalions, they don't align with old boxes which allowed 2 18 strong battalions which seemed to be some kind of standard, at least in the BLB community.

I started my army of this period with 18 strong battalions.
I have no idea what to do more musketeers.

sebastien Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 3:25 p.m. PST

Pretty negatives comments, when perhaps we should be pleased someone has taken this product on….after all did not Wargames Factory stop making them?

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 3:38 p.m. PST

No warlord bought them. And didn't release them until now.

Musketier Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 4:19 p.m. PST

Plus the WGF weren't that great to start with – I should know, I bought a bunch to support them but was a little disappointed.
Did Warlord at least remedy the upside-down sidearms of the infantry?

Ogdenlulimus17 Feb 2017 4:45 p.m. PST

@sebastien
Frankly, no one is pleased to be taken advantage of, monetarily, to such a degree.

Leadjunky17 Feb 2017 5:13 p.m. PST

Glad I bought all I needed back in the day. Not too big a fan of there rules or prices on their figures but after pricing other lines in the game store they are still cheaper than most fantasy science fiction lines. Not saying a lot I know but you pay to play with the in crowd I guess. I am still not a cool kid I guess.

idontbelieveit18 Feb 2017 4:58 a.m. PST

These are the figs with the "rock em sock em robots" necks?

andysyk18 Feb 2017 6:54 a.m. PST

Yep that's the ones.

JCBJCB18 Feb 2017 1:26 p.m. PST

I appreciate what Warlord is doing, but I'm out.

General Kirchner Inactive Member23 Feb 2017 10:03 p.m. PST

I am glad that warlord is re releasing them.

I think any of us would acknowledge the old price point seemed unsustainable with WGF. they are still pretty inexpensive.

when do they release? has anyone bought a box?

have the sprues changed?

Judge Doug27 Feb 2017 10:45 a.m. PST

Warlord did not "buy" Wargames Factory.

Wargames Factory still exists. They stopped producing models to sell under their own brand new and has become entirely a manufacturer/oem (for companies like Kingdom Death, Malifaux, and anyone who contracts their services).

Warlord bought the designs from WGF and paid to retool the sprues. So you can blame the price hike on the initial outlay of purchasing and retooling steel molds along with the included painting guide and flags (which man I would have loved some flags back when I was buying the WGF dudes)

I love the idea that we're somehow being "taken advantage of" by Warlord – a company who did NOT need to buy, retool, and re-release the WGF items after WGF left the biz. I did not see Warlord holding a gun to your head lol. The market will prove whether their price point for the product is sustainable or not.

General Kirchner Inactive Member28 Feb 2017 9:08 a.m. PST

I agree.

we have all seen figure ranges come and go, and I was not the only one who was sad to see the inexpensive figs go away.

despite their well documented flaws, they are still really inexpensive at the price and good enough for me.

cae5ar21 Jun 2017 8:06 p.m. PST

I'm just glad to see plastic figures for this period again, thanks to Warlord Games. Does anyone else do WSS in plastic? Since the uniforms were so standardised it surprises me there aren't offerings from other manufacturers.

DGT12322 Jun 2017 6:22 a.m. PST

While I agree that its nice to see plastics the uniforms of the period were no more standardized than saying all Napoleonic uniforms are all the same. Yes they all generally wore long coats and hats. But some coats open different pockets, different cuff sizes even lots of different head gear. Now I'm not saying that the Warlord plastics are bad, I have a couple units of them, and they are correct for some of the units for some of the nations but if you dig into the uniforms you will find the Warlord plastics are not correct for many of the units. French comes to mind with the side cartridge box, most sources say after 1702 the French issued and wore the belly box.
But then again how many people are really going to know ;)

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