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VicCina Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 11:39 a.m. PST

Hi,

So I am getting ready to start building up forces in 10mm to do The WSS. I have several rule sets that I want to try out based on other threads from TMP. I currently own Field of Battle and Cartouche by Piquet, Beneath the Lily Banner 2, Age of Honor and Marlburian Commander.
What I'm trying to decide on is what size bases to use that will work with these rule sets?
I would love your suggestions.

Thanks,

Victor

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 11:55 a.m. PST

BLB uses 3 bases of 6 figures.

But if you want you could use 6 bases of 6 or 3 bases of 4.
You'll just pretend that the battalions are 18 strong and squadrons are 6 strong.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 12:04 p.m. PST

Are you using individual figures or strips?

I put 2 Old Glory strips in tandem on steel paper, and dispense with bases. 10 figures on a 1 X 1/2 inch footprint. Three of these make a batallion. This is for a modified Shako, I don't know if it would work for any of yours. But you can get a lot of units on the table.

Doesn't work for cavalry,of course.

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 12:09 p.m. PST

The figures will mostly be Old Glory 10mm so they are in strips but I have some Pendraken figures which are individual.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 12:25 p.m. PST

I have some Pendraken also,for fill-ins. Haven't tried mounting them yet. I may have to clip some bases to cram them in, but looks like they will work.

BTW,check Pendraken's SYW range for a nice supply wagon--supplied randomly,but I've gotten two different loads,and one empty. Comes with a tarp that can be put on either way. A lot of variation for one piece. Also in that range is a carriage. I'm not as crazy about that,as it's one solid chunk of lead,except for a trunk,and of course the wheels,shaft,horse,and driver.

There's also a pack of civilians.

Also, though I don't have any yet, the AWI range has a pack of casualties, and the Napoleonics range has dead horses. Useful for hit markers.

I decided to go with "no basing" for two reasons: the strips are already "terrained" in a way(a little less so for the French), and, as I said, it allows for lots of units in a small space.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 12:29 p.m. PST

The WSS is my big "get around to it one day" projects. For either 6mm or 10mm (especially) strip bases, I'd planned to do three ranks on 25 or 30mm squares.

At those scales, being able to do more than two ranks would be my big selling point. It's not nearly so practical at 15mm and up.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 12:37 p.m. PST

Beast--let me encourage you--the 10mm strips paint very quickly! Though I have to admit I cheat--I spray prime black,and paint the "outsides"--I don't worry about inside the legs,for instance. Put them on the table,and in that scale,any black is "shadow". Works for me,anyway.

The hard part is the flags!

steamingdave4715 Feb 2017 12:54 p.m. PST

I have large WSS armies ( and LoAarmies) in 10mm and play Twilight of the Sunking rules. These use " base widths" as the measuring standard and all of mine are based on 60mm x 30 mm bases, with about 16 figures to a base. Two such bases make up a unit. If you want to keep flexibility to play other rules, you could try 30 mm square or even 20mm x 30mm and put them on sabots. The great advantage of the bigger bases is that movement of figures is greatly speeded up. Most of our games will have 30 to 60 units per side (we fight Blenheim, Ramillies, Neerwinden, Fleurus etc), which is the beauty of 10mm- a 6 feet by 4 feet table can be used for a major battle, even better if you have 10x5 available, as we do at times.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 1:00 p.m. PST

Steamingdave--sounds great! Have any pics?

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2017 1:13 p.m. PST

I was going to base in ranks since I like the mass look of the figures.

Steamingdave-I would love to see some photos of your troops and you too Hafen von Schlockenberg.

The square bases at 30mm sounds interesting. I'll have to put some figures on a base and see how it looks.

Who asked this joker15 Feb 2017 2:06 p.m. PST

I base all my figures 3 to a base with one base of 2 and one base of 1. That way I can play figure removal games and make change when needed.

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2017 11:31 a.m. PST

Okay here's the break down of the basing schemes for the rules I currently own for this period.

Beneath the Lily Banners 2nd ed
15mm scale
Infantry-6 figures per stand on 30mmx30mm- A Battalion is 18 figures so 3 bases
Cavarly- 2 to 3 models per stand 40mmx30mm- A Squadron is 6 figures so 2 to 3 bases
Artillery- 1 Gun per stand on 25mmx50mm (or as needed for depth)- 1 gun is equal to 3 guns

1685-1845 WRG
Infantry 30mmx10mm
Cavalry 30mmx20mm
Artillery 20mmx60mm

Marlburian Commander
Any basing scheme-They suggest for 25mm
Infantry is a Battalion/Regiment 4 figures firing by Ranks is 2 up and 2 back on 1"x1.5" base
or 4 figures firing by Platoon is 4 figures in a row on 1.5"x1" base----6 bases makes a Battalion
Cavalry is 3"x1.5" and 4 cavalry per base- 3 bases is a squadron
Artillery is 1.5"x1.5" One Medium Gun and 4 figures- 2 guns equal a battery

Field of Battle by Piquet
25mm scale
Infantry is 1.5"x1.5" 4 stands equals a battalion
Cavalry is 1.5" x 3" 4 stands equals a Regiment
Artillery is 2 stands

Cartouche by Piquet
This system has two game scales Battalion and Regimental-The basing is used for both.
15mm scale
Infantry is 1"x1" 4 stands equals a unit
Cavalry is 1"x1.5" 4 stands equals a unit
Artillery is 1"x2" 2 stands equals a unit

Ridiculous Vanity
15mm
Infantry is 3/4"x1" 4 figures per base- 3 bases is a unit
Cavalry is 1"x1" 2 figures per base- 2 bases is a unit
Artillery is 1"x 1.25" 1 gun/4 men which represents 4 guns

Frostie17 Feb 2017 12:15 p.m. PST

For my 7YW I use 5x 20x20mm for infantry-4 figures per base for infantry
4 x 30x30mm for cavalry-3 figures per base

VicCina Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2017 4:08 p.m. PST

Frostie- What scale figures? I'm guessing 15mm?

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