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PVT64109 Feb 2017 11:13 a.m. PST

Does anyone have any information on the number and types of guns that Gates army had at Saratoga. I can find it for the British, but not the Americans.

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2017 11:46 a.m. PST

that;s because it was all in the fortifications ..back at Gates HQ and wasn;t present in the Battle of Freemans Farm or Bemis Heights..all infantry..for the Americans..lots of it..

Hafen von Schlockenberg09 Feb 2017 12:22 p.m. PST

Yes,covering the river road.

Old Contemptibles09 Feb 2017 12:29 p.m. PST

No American guns at the two main battles. Only British.

PVT64109 Feb 2017 12:31 p.m. PST

I'm aware of that, but what did they have there?

Hafen von Schlockenberg11 Feb 2017 10:52 a.m. PST

Sorry,not near my library. I'll do some checking when I get home.

Hafen von Schlockenberg12 Feb 2017 11:50 p.m. PST

Luzader has only this: "The army's artillery consisted of Stevens' Independent Battalion,248 men serving twenty-two guns of unknown caliber".

I'll do some more checking, but if Luzader couldn't find any more information after years of primary research, it may not exist.

Supercilius Maximus13 Feb 2017 6:12 a.m. PST

Stevens' battalion was raised by drafts/volunteers from all the infantry units in what was originally Schuyler's, later Gates', Northern Army; other than one company wearing "round hats" there is no record of it even receiving a uniform prior to the conclusion of the campaign. Presumably a good chunk of those 22 guns would have been what was left over from the arsenal captured at Ticonderoga by Ethan Allen at the start of the war, much of which was later transported to Boston by Knox.

PVT64114 Feb 2017 10:02 a.m. PST

I emailed the Park Historian at Saratoga Battlefield, Eric Schnitzer. He advises:

Hey Tom!

You bet! I regret that the Osprey book got it wrong here, but no worries: we know the exacting number and types of guns that Stevens had under his command at Bemus's Heights:

One brass 9-pounder
One brass 6-pounder
Three iron 6-pounders
Ten brass 4-pounders
Five iron 4-pounders
Two iron 3-pounders

What we don't have any solid idea of is where exactly the pieces came from, with the exception of the ten brass 4-pounders. Those were from the French (delivered at Portsmouth on L'Amphitrite in April 1777); they were heavy 4-pounders, canon de Vallière.

The one brass 6-pounder does not appear to have been one of the guns captured at Bennington.

Hafen von Schlockenberg14 Feb 2017 1:22 p.m. PST

Well,that's good to know. Well done!

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