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Grelber03 Feb 2017 9:39 p.m. PST

OK, these are probably the most photographed colonial era guns in the United States, but I'm not sure what they are. They're the guns on display at the park on Main Street USA in Disneyland. Here's a link to a photo, though you'll have to scroll down: link
It says they are French, probably de Bange system guns, and 60mm-80mm at a guess. Anybody know more about them that that?

Grelber

rmaker03 Feb 2017 9:57 p.m. PST

Not sure, but that narrow wheel track screams MOUNTAIN GUN to me.

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2017 4:36 a.m. PST

Think "Colonial French" in AFRICA. There is a pair of 6 pounders (circa 1870's) on display at the MOD in Gabon. The barrels were rifled with deep grooves. This one, no doubt , saw Disney's maintenance crew cover the mussle to keep out trash/cany wrappers and to help control corrosion, keeping the piece on display for even longer.

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

While I know that there is a growing number of 28mm SF buildings as well as a few 15mm files on Thingiverse, I was wondering if anyone had files (or was working on them) for small scale 10-6mm science fiction buildings?

Eleve de Vauban Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2017 11:18 a.m. PST

The cannon in the photo looks to me like either a 80mm or 90mm light field gun, De Bange model 1877. I have used "Les Canons de la Victoire 1914 – 1918 Volume 1" by Touzin and Vauvillier as my source. The book points out it is very difficult to distinguish between the 80mm and the 90mm.

At the start of WW1, there were some 4600 of these cannons in reserve. During the autumn and winter of 1914, to help alleviate the shortage of artillery, many of these were issued to the front line. At the start of 1916, around 2200 were still in use.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2017 7:25 p.m. PST

I'll have to look for these when we're there in May. Get some pictures with the Colonel and his granddaughter serving the gun. grin

Jim

Jcfrog05 Feb 2017 2:15 a.m. PST

Canon de 80mm affut de montagne 1880

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Grelber05 Feb 2017 10:58 a.m. PST

Thank you, one and all, especially Jcfrog!
I remember the 80mm mountain gun--French columns drug them all over North Africa during their campaigns.
Good luck, ColCampbell! My son is all grown up, but shows no sign of reproducing, so I don't know that I'll have a chance to go to Disneyland again. Visited once in January, and there were groups of 5-6 adults with one kid as an excuse for being there (Honest, Bill, we didn't want to go, but we had to take the little Bobby)

Grelber

Murvihill06 Feb 2017 10:47 a.m. PST

'De Bange model 1877' That has to be the single most perfect name for a cannon…

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