DukeWacoan   | 02 Feb 2017 5:43 p.m. PST |
I have a number of sources for regimental strengths, guns, etc for Gettysburg. I'm revising an old Carnage & Glory OOB and hoping only to do it once. So I'm wondering about opinions of best source. I found this online -
link I also have looked at Trudeau's book which has detailed numbers, and claims to use multiple sources. Any other thoughts? |
| coopman | 02 Feb 2017 5:54 p.m. PST |
If you go to boardgamegeek.com and search for a game called "Terrible Swift Sword" by SPI, they may have some photos of the countersheets. It had regimental counters with strengths based on one strength point = 100 men. |
| DukeWacoan | 02 Feb 2017 6:53 p.m. PST |
Thanks I have MMPs Last Chance Victory and have referenced that for Morale and Weaponry. It has similar 100/man SPs. Since C&G has individual manpower, I'm looking for as exact as is out there. |
| vagamer63 | 02 Feb 2017 7:18 p.m. PST |
"Numbers and Losses at Gettysburg" by Livermore, and "Brigades at Gettysburg" by Gottfried are excellent references for what you're looking for in your OOB. |
| TKindred | 02 Feb 2017 7:32 p.m. PST |
I do know that the strengths of Maine units involved were taken from the 30 June 1863 consolidated monthly reports. When my old gaming club built our armies, we used the Gettysburg strengths. We took these from both AAR's of regiments and brigades, as well as combing through the OR's. We had (have) all128 volumes of them. Spent many an hour going through stuff to gain those numbers, since there was no internet, no digital sources, etc. Lots and lots of time spent with dusty books. |
| TKindred | 02 Feb 2017 7:34 p.m. PST |
If you need Maine strengths, either shoot me a PM or find a copy of "Maine at Gettysburg". I have a copy and a couple free days next week. V/R |
 ageofglory  | 02 Feb 2017 8:29 p.m. PST |
Busey and Martin, Regimental Strengths and Losses at Gettysburg. Definitive. |
| Cleburne1863 | 02 Feb 2017 9:21 p.m. PST |
Yes, absolutely Busey and Martin, Regimental Strengths and Losses at Gettysburg. THE source. You can also get my Gettysburg scenario book, which breaks down the OOB for various figure ratios common to many popular rules systems. Most of it was taken from Busey and Martin. link |
| teramaze | 02 Feb 2017 11:13 p.m. PST |
I have that the Numbers form the book Gettysburg Campaign June-july 1863 (Great Campaigns)by Albet A Nofi. And for few holes in the numbers in are have in Osprey Order of Battle series Gettysburg Books 1,2,6,7,10,11 |
| jowady | 03 Feb 2017 7:09 a.m. PST |
I agree with age of glory and Cleburne 1863, Busey and Martin's "Regimental Strengths and Losses at Gettysburg" is considered the guide by Historians. It goes through the Methodology in determining the numbers and is comprehensive for every regiment and battery on both sides. It needs to be on every Gettysburg student's bookshelf right alongside Coddington. |
| Mollinary | 03 Feb 2017 10:52 a.m. PST |
Absolutely. Busey and Martin is amazing, comprehensive, and clear as to how it's figures have been arrived at. A fantastic resource. Mollinary |
| Garryowen | 03 Feb 2017 11:14 a.m. PST |
Another vote for Busy and Martin. Tom |
| vtsaogames | 08 Feb 2017 7:11 a.m. PST |
How does the Gettysburg Companion measure up? Edit: Busey/Martin is in the bibliography so I guess that is where the OB numbers come from. |
 KimRYoung | 09 Feb 2017 8:42 a.m. PST |
Gettysburg Companion uses Busey and Martin as their reference so it is a good source. The layout might make it more "user friendly" for putting together on order of battle, especially for the artillery. For detail, the original source though is a must. Kim |
| Clays Russians | 09 Feb 2017 3:34 p.m. PST |
I love trudeaus book, but am not familiar with Busey and Martins. |
