| Deadles | 31 Jan 2017 7:04 p.m. PST |
warisboring.com/the-u-s-navys-redesigned-future-ship-still-won-t-fight-7b2e066b4705#.ib171b7fk
Seems the frigate LCS version is still junk.
Oh and they've dropped the stupid reduced manning concepts and the whole reason for the ships: multi-mission. Now each LCS will have a single mission. Awesome except most of the modules haven't been designed yet. They will come on line between 2020 and 2025 assuming they're completed or work.
Out of 28 ships currently built, only 18 are operational. 4 will be testbeds and 6 will be training boats.
And their running costs will be 90% of an Arleigh Burke destroyer. So for 90% of an Arleigh Burke you get a giant unreliable patrol boat with none of the capability of an FFG-7 frigate let alone a destroyer. If they could get them to run reliably, they should sell them off for mega yacht conversion and buy some more Arleigh Burke's instead. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 31 Jan 2017 7:20 p.m. PST |
Our tax dollars at work, ladies and gents. |
| Mako11 | 31 Jan 2017 11:22 p.m. PST |
Everyone, and I mean everyone involved in the LCS procurement and design fiasco should be keel-hauled, and if they survive, fired, with prejudice. Perhaps we can get some use out of them as artificial reefs. They've got less firepower than a WWII PT Boat, S-Boat, or British MTB, not to mention, newer, Cold War era fast attack craft that were much smaller, far less expensive, and at least had a small foredeck gun, and some SSMs to throw at the enemy. Some also had ASW weapons, and anti-sub, and/or anti-ship torpedoes too. A pity most of those have been scrapped, or sold to the Turks. |
 Extra Crispy  | 01 Feb 2017 6:39 a.m. PST |
The US military is the greatest jobs program in human history. *Of course* congress won't step in! |
 Dentatus  | 01 Feb 2017 7:06 a.m. PST |
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| wminsing | 01 Feb 2017 10:16 a.m. PST |
Man, you really can't make this stuff up. Makes the F-35 program look like a paragon of efficiency. -Will |
Ed Mohrmann  | 01 Feb 2017 11:03 a.m. PST |
Well, DDE tried to warn us about the Military-Industrial
Complex, but did we listen ? Noooooo……. |
| Choctaw | 01 Feb 2017 1:49 p.m. PST |
Someone should go to prison for this. |
| Lion in the Stars | 01 Feb 2017 6:22 p.m. PST |
Actually, I think that the Coasties should get the LCS1 monohulls, and the Navy should keep the trimarans for use as gator-freighters (since they can haul upwards of a full company of troops and vehicles inside, with a flight deck big enough for an Osprey or CH53). Good for drug interdiction and anti-piracy operations. But I'm glad that someone finally realized that minimal manning is fatal for a warship that is expected to take damage. |
| Deadles | 01 Feb 2017 8:05 p.m. PST |
CG wouldn't have much use for any of the LCS hulls as their sea keeping ability is apparently pretty poor. They are littoral ships after all. They are good for coastal areas where the seas are relatively calm most of the time. Basically they're good for the rich cruising around the Aegean! |
| Lion in the Stars | 02 Feb 2017 7:08 p.m. PST |
Coasties don't go more than about 200 miles offshore for the most part, which is still over the continental shelf in the Atlantic. For that matter, the only time they do go over 200nm offshore is deploying to and from Hawaii (or the icebreakers to the poles). |
| Charlie 12 | 03 Feb 2017 7:59 p.m. PST |
I give the Navy some credit for at least trying to make something out of the mess that is the LCS. They're stuck with at least 20+ hulls. So they're going to have to modify them into some kind of useful ship (whatever that becomes). And all the snarky jibes from the cheap seats doesn't change that… |
| Mako11 | 05 Feb 2017 12:49 a.m. PST |
They'll make excellent, albeit expensive, artificial reefs. |
| StarCruiser | 06 Feb 2017 8:52 a.m. PST |
No – they would crumble into dust down there… Far too delicate for even reefs… |
