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Juan Ariel Inactive Member30 Jan 2017 12:19 p.m. PST

Hello everybody,as you see im new here,I have been reading this forum for a time,and i see such interestings topics,so i want to ask to you,people of this forum,if someone know how many companies had the army raised by charles the bold,during the burgundian wars,if its possible i want to know the names and the number of each one.Im asking this because,i cant access to a book easily,envy and shipment in my country its dificult.

Many thanks

GurKhan30 Jan 2017 1:05 p.m. PST

In 1472-74 there were 1200 lances of the ordonnance in 12 companies of 100 lances each. See for example link and link

steamingdave4731 Jan 2017 8:47 a.m. PST

Interesting links Gurkhan. With several different types of soldier within a lance, how were they organised to fight on the battlefield?

Great War Ace Inactive Member31 Jan 2017 10:54 a.m. PST

My understanding of "lances" is that when arrayed they went to a "unit" of their type. But I suspect that uniformity here was never a fact: some commanders must have experimented with mixed units, e.g. the "shot" mixed with guisarmses. For centuries, MAAs had been dismounting to "stiffen" ordinary infantry, especially in England. Adding "shot" to the mix was natural. But later armies were tending to organize by weapon type, then array in support of each other.

Juan Ariel Inactive Member01 Feb 2017 11:28 a.m. PST

Thanks for the responses,i wanted to response before but i didnt, because i wasnt able to post comments

so there are 22 companies? right?

Griefbringer07 Feb 2017 12:43 a.m. PST

Actually, according to the source I checked, there were in total 27 ordinance companies founded, up to year 1476.

Juan Ariel Inactive Member07 Feb 2017 7:26 a.m. PST

Griefbringer You checked in the same place that i am?

Juan Ariel Inactive Member07 Feb 2017 7:32 a.m. PST

by the way thanks for the data

Griefbringer08 Feb 2017 6:32 a.m. PST

Griefbringer You checked in the same place that i am?

I have no idea what place you checked, but my source is the booklet "Burgundian Army of Charles The Bold – the Ordonnance Companies and Their Captains".

I bought by copy from Vexillia, who still has them in stock:


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