archiduque | 19 Jan 2017 9:55 a.m. PST |
Hi all! I've painted others two Bavarian Infantry battalions,without bases,with Perry Miniatures figures. I hope you like them!!:-) archiduquerpc.wordpress.com
Saludos Rafa |
wrgmr1 | 19 Jan 2017 10:02 a.m. PST |
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HP2Sport | 19 Jan 2017 10:37 a.m. PST |
Superb. What is the consensus on the Bavarian cornflower blue? Got some to paint but holding off until I'm confident of the most likely shade of blue! |
deadhead | 19 Jan 2017 11:41 a.m. PST |
Just how good is the "webbing" on the figures above? White belts on a pale blue background…not easy! Saving those pics to inspire me. Still value your book! There was much discussion indeed, not that long ago about Bavarian blue. Was it not von W himself who pointed out much darker than we think? (I think Vallejo 963 Medium Blue is right) Very like those Prussian dragoons who also look superb in a paler blue…only snag is…….
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Condotta | 19 Jan 2017 11:57 a.m. PST |
deadhead, thanks for the post. I find this colour blue looks good to my eye. archiduque, beautifully painted miniatures. Thanks for sharing. |
BTCTerrainman | 19 Jan 2017 2:19 p.m. PST |
I just looked through my collection of photos from my visit to the Bavarian Army Museum. I have the same photo as above. Yes, the blue was a lot darker than many think. |
marshalGreg | 19 Jan 2017 3:09 p.m. PST |
@archiduque Most exquisite painting! @deadhead Do you have any pics from this museum of the flags by year? MG |
Dr Jeckyll | 20 Jan 2017 5:18 a.m. PST |
Fantastic job Rafa!!! Lovely varm colors:) Regards Erik |
von Winterfeldt | 20 Jan 2017 6:10 a.m. PST |
excellent painting, the bright blue is painting style, very vivid colours so they pop out, I would opt for a more subdued Bavarian coat colour – here are some of my Bavarians to compare – not in the samle league as Rafas miniatures, just for comparison
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deadhead | 20 Jan 2017 7:22 a.m. PST |
I have found the original detailed discussion and very interesting it is to read once more……. link I am sorry to say the picture I showed is from the internet and not following a personal visit to the museum. The link shows some more coats but no flag images The Bavarian army museum looks well worth a visit; armeemuseum.de/en This from 1809 again to give an idea of colour
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Marc at work | 20 Jan 2017 7:24 a.m. PST |
I like the lighter blue as it just says very easily "Bavarians". I would imagine it was different to French/Prussian blue as the period commentators noted it. And scale effect maybe suggests we should go lighter to compensate for the small size of our figures. We can see this at work with vW's excellent paintwork – look how grey he takes his black, for effect. Now apply that to blue and we get Bavarian light blue. Either way – all lovely. |
marshalGreg | 20 Jan 2017 9:50 a.m. PST |
@Deadhead How are you able to navigate the museum sight and present these pics? I am not able to see anything this well from the their website! MG |
deadhead | 20 Jan 2017 10:33 a.m. PST |
It takes an Irishman….. Mind you, you could just follow the link above. Select "Collections" from across the top. Select "Uniforms and Clothing". Bob est votre oncle….
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jtipp68 | 20 Jan 2017 7:30 p.m. PST |
Brilliant work Rafa, as always! The helmets keep from being tempted to paint the eyes 😉 VW, yours are absolutely sublime. Both are amazing examples of how different styles can produce stunning results. |
Markconz | 21 Jan 2017 12:27 a.m. PST |
Great work! And the additional info in this thread too :) |
deadhead | 21 Jan 2017 3:26 a.m. PST |
Found another discussion that did not come up on my earlier search. Even more detailed…surely the last word on Bavarian Blue! Alas few of the linked images have survived the test of time TMP link |
archiduque | 21 Jan 2017 5:15 a.m. PST |
Many thanks for your kind comments!!!!:-) And thanks deadhead for the extra info to!!!!!! Saludos Rafa
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von Winterfeldt | 21 Jan 2017 5:37 a.m. PST |
@deadhead bad that my links are broken now – due to my old use of immage shack |
ccmatty | 21 Jan 2017 9:33 a.m. PST |
von Winterfeldt, Love your paint work. Could you share the manufacturer of the miniatures and scale? Love the poses… Thanks. |
von Winterfeldt | 21 Jan 2017 10:02 a.m. PST |
Perrys – 28 mm – yes indeed excellent poses of a firing line |
deadhead | 21 Jan 2017 1:33 p.m. PST |
von W, I do still remember how much work you put into that discussion on Bavarian Blue. Such a shame to lose those images. The cyberattack on Image Shack did hit everyone who used it. I was lucky, most of my stuff reappeared eventually. I suspect it did them massive commercial damage, as many folk were very cross |
von Winterfeldt | 22 Jan 2017 7:57 a.m. PST |
just to throw in 2 photos one Bavarian infantry at Eggmühl 1809, please note that the hornblowers had despite regulations – already a helmet, they were still drawn from the musicians the other showing the Bavarian light blue of 1870
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deadhead | 22 Jan 2017 10:47 a.m. PST |
Funny thing, the lower picture… It is still a much, much, lighter blue that we would see on a Napoleonic Infantry coat, indeed, on a US coat from ACW. We compromise for scale effect. We have to accept better technology over 50 years later…or better fabrics and dyes for occifers at the time….but…in the end….the top pics are not surely too far off the mark! Let's be honest. Rafa's are works of art. Stunning. Makes me sick. Von W's are nearer to reality. Duller. Right. I could not do that. My Engineers of the Guard in Charleroi will be really dull compared with the Gringos40 website…fine. Two different ways of interpreting very similar figures. That is what is so brilliant about this hobby…and I have never ever thrown a dice yet! |
Marc the plastics fan | 22 Jan 2017 2:38 p.m. PST |
That's a great picture from vW. Now, as most of "us" paint our French that colour, our Bavarians have to be lighter still. Call it the scale effect if you will, but it is more the impact of three colour shading and painting for visual impact on pictures Bottom line – if I could paint anything like vW I'd be happy |
Marc at work | 23 Jan 2017 6:28 a.m. PST |
And on the HaT twitter page twitter.com/HatToySoldiers Some very nice plastic Bavarians, in a more modern interpretation of the blue |