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18 Jan 2017 8:03 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Jan 2017 8:02 p.m. PST

I've been worried for some time that TMP needed a "place" for new gamers to ask questions, so I've launched 'Getting Started' boards in most of the interest areas.

Let's see how this works out… grin

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2017 10:38 p.m. PST

May I humbly suggest my guide for getting started in the American Revolution:
TMP link

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Jan 2017 10:49 p.m. PST

Crossposted grin

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2017 12:15 a.m. PST

Is it April 1st already….

Yellow Admiral19 Jan 2017 12:18 a.m. PST

The traditional Internet solution to this is "sticky" threads and FAQs.

The repetition of questions on this site is a direct result of new users being unable to find the information they want. The most straightforward solution is to provide it where they would first look for it. Sticky threads or FAQs floating at the top of each topic (and/or in a section on the front page?) would stop a lot of the redundant newbie questions.

I already have trouble finding things in the vast proliferation of boards and groups of boards and sections of groups of boards, so I'm not sure adding a bunch more boards is a net benefit. Are the grognards going to hang out on the newbie boards to minisplain?

- Ix

fullerena19 Jan 2017 4:38 a.m. PST

The usual term is "grogsplain," Yellow Admiral.

I guess this might be useful? I'd suggest instead of using it like a general set of forums, it might be better to have it as a holding category where other threads that have turned out to be useful get crossposted. A rules discussion thread in SF Discussion turns out to have some neat insights into how to start, poke the editor to crosspost it to GSwSF. Sort of a greatest hits collection with a focus on newbies rather than somewhere most people intentionally start threads.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP19 Jan 2017 8:24 a.m. PST

Is there a bot that will find broken links and images? There's a ton of old content with references to placeholder websites.

General Disaster Inactive Member19 Jan 2017 8:36 a.m. PST

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Yellow Admiral19 Jan 2017 9:39 a.m. PST

The usual term is "grogsplain," Yellow Admiral.
LOL! That's awesome.

- Ix

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Jan 2017 10:44 a.m. PST

Is there a bot that will find broken links and images?

Tons of tools like this exist. They are all tuned to specific db implementations.

I doubt that would be possible, it would have to be done manually.

I have had college computer science juniors and seniors (with the occasional sophomore who got into the class) do such a thing as a two-week lab assignment, dependent on another two-week parser assignment being done first. Basically, everyone who doesn't fail everything else gets it.

It's not too hard.

Assuming you had a development environment available, I would call this a 12 and 12 project … buy me 12 beers and give me 12 hours.

Early morning writer21 Jan 2017 10:07 a.m. PST

Winston, I applaud you greeting this board in the spirit in which it was created. Navigating boards is absurdly simple and there is a search mechanism that isn't board limited so I don't get what all the angst is about Maybe some people are just too lazy to put in the effort. But, again, kudos to Winston for doing the right thing.

Queen Catherine22 Jan 2017 6:48 p.m. PST

Personally, I think it's easier to post directly into the period on the "discussion" board. That's where I would think to look and post, anyway.

I find the vast proliferation of boards to be an overall negative, and can't help but note that many of these smaller boards have very little traffic.

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2017 2:14 a.m. PST

I think this section is a good idea as some questions asked by a beginner may come across as being perhaps trivial by nature .

HappyHiker26 Jan 2017 5:26 a.m. PST

having asked a ton of basic questions recently, I think its a great Idea to have all that basic stuff in one place as I bet people were just repeating themselves. Not sure if a dedicated forum is the best way but its certainly better than nothing. I think a basic Napoleonic(and ACW and …) sticky would have been good, but it requires someone to go to the trouble of writing one, where at least with a forum it will grow organically.

It certainly a step in the right direction, and expect a post from me once I start on my highlanders…

Terrement Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2017 11:31 a.m. PST

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Westerner Inactive Member13 Feb 2017 3:40 a.m. PST

As a someone tempted to return to his childhood interest in Napoleonics, and who wishes to graduate to gaming and learning a proper set of rules, I think it is excellent to have a place where I can try to discover the most basic stuff about wargaming.

Learning what half the abbreviations mean will be a start.

I enjoyed Winston Smith's guide for getting started in the American Revolution. A very enjoyable and intelligent approach to building up representative forces for a given theatre, if I may say so.

Though an alternative guide for getting started in the American Revolution might be simply to disguise yourself, steal some tea, and throw it in a convenient harbour.

Look forward to developments.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2017 4:33 a.m. PST

@ Westerner

I think that some of us who have been involved in the hobby for a while forget not everyone knows the basics.

So welcome & don't hesitate to ask questions. There's a number of very knowledgeable folk here who will respond.

Westerner Inactive Member13 Feb 2017 4:48 a.m. PST

@ Ochoin

Many thanks. I look forward to displaying my ignorance and being led to the sunlit uplands of enlightenment!

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2017 3:21 p.m. PST

I agree with ochoin.

Abbreviations, acronyms, and other forms of short-hand abound in the various TMP fora. Any time you have a set of participants with deep experience discussing a topic at the Nth level of detail, a newbie may struggle for quite some time with low comprehension and feel too intimidated to ask very basic questions ("What does it mean when he says 'FoW still relies on igougo'?").

A starters' board is little more than taking the very well developed MMG approach of having tiers, so that beginners have an easy way to start while experienced gamers have a gaming environment that is challenging enough to keep them interested. This is little more than game theory brought to chat forum practice.

I say it's nice to have a "welcome station" that gives the newcomer a place to start, where those who are willing to help bring the novice up to apprentice status can share their experience and perspective.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

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