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MichaelCollinsHimself Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2017 3:47 a.m. PST

I think I found the final piece in the jigsaw in my Ancients rules (Barbarus Bellorum) the other night and worked out how a push of shields would work for Roman legionaries. I had already done this for hoplites or pikes pushing legionaries or other heavy troops, I simply used the same rules and applied them to legionaries v. warbands – to model the typical Roman "buzz-saw" tactic as was used in many battles – battles like Watling Street (61 AD) and Aquae Sextae (102 BC) and others…. If you`re wondering the "pushing-back" might be the same as DBx rules; it is not, it applies to whole commands (battle lines) not just to single elements or bases.
Photos: some of that "stabby-stabby – pushy-pushy tactic" going on !

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kodiakblair13 Jan 2017 10:17 a.m. PST

Mike. That's exactly the way I've viewed Roman fighting for years,
though I'd have said " pushy, pushy, stabby, stabby" :-)

Well protected about the head and shoulders,hunckered behind shield there's next to no vulnerable areas. Well fed in respect to the opposition due to supply chain. Tired ranks easily replaced by fresh troops.

Nothing fancy just a pragmatic approach to butchery.

bilsonius14 Jan 2017 12:13 p.m. PST

"Barbarian of the Wars"? Should that be Bellum Barbarorum, the War of the Barbarians?

MichaelCollinsHimself Supporting Member of TMP14 Jan 2017 1:13 p.m. PST

wars with the barbarians ?

arsbelli15 Jan 2017 4:07 a.m. PST

For some reason, a well-known scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian suddenly comes to mind.

In any case, "wars with the barbarians" = "bella cum barbaris."
Or to follow bilsonius' suggestion, "barbarian wars" = "bella barbarorum."

MichaelCollinsHimself Supporting Member of TMP15 Jan 2017 11:49 a.m. PST

Many Thanks,

Looks like it`s bella cum barbaris… and I have an alternative title now: Romani ite domum !


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madaxeman16 Jan 2017 6:28 a.m. PST

Sound like you will be needing at least 3 separate new rules boards set up then…….

MichaelCollinsHimself Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2017 7:20 a.m. PST

What, a board for ancient rules written in latin perhaps?
I`ve only just got the knack of cross-posting.

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