"Loyalist units wearing British supplied uniforms" Topic
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Winston Smith | 04 Jan 2017 11:01 a.m. PST |
Would they wear coats cut to the 1768 Warrant? Or would they wear later cut down coats? From the words "cut down", it would appear that an actual full coat was cut down. Obviously if the contractor knew that a shortened coat was desired, that is how he would cut the pattern. Obviously I am talking logically here. Collusion to split the subsidy between Colonel and contractor obviously comes into play here. The Government supplied both Ted and green coats throughout the war. How were they cut? I have in the past painted Warrant coats green, Continentals have been painted green and red, etc. I'm just curious if I guessed accurately. In many cases, figures sold as Continentals are just Warrant figures with floppy hats and non conforming bags and packs. |
Virginia Tory | 04 Jan 2017 12:04 p.m. PST |
It would depend on the unit. Start with this: link There was the Warrant, then there were all the field modifications made and those could vary from unit to unit. |
Militia Pete | 05 Jan 2017 5:31 a.m. PST |
Virginia Tory beat me to it. |
historygamer | 05 Jan 2017 9:12 a.m. PST |
All coats were shipped over the same – not fully finished, and likely with full skirts. The decision to modify the uniform was at the colonel's discretion. Note the modern day representations of the Volunteers of Ireland don't show a particularly cut down coat: link |
Major Bloodnok | 05 Jan 2017 3:56 p.m. PST |
"12th September 1776. Headquarters Records of the british Army in America (The Carleton Papers) A list''' of clothing to be sent out for the use of His Majesty's forces under the command of His Excellency General Howe, P.R.O 30/55, Vol. 3, p. 266. About 40,000 pairs of mittens. 5,000 uniform suits including Serjeants and two Drums to every 100. The coats green lined with white baize, waistcoats and breeches white and white buttons. Cloth and making the same as for the Army and not better. 10,000 pairs of shoes. 10,000 pairs of stockings. 10,000 of wollen cloth for legging. Linen for 10,000 shirts with thread etc. to make them. 10,000 rollers. 5,000 round hats. 5,000 pair of buckles. p. 268. . . We were. . .on the 30th of August directed to provide clothing for 5,000 provincials and a pair of thick mill'd woollen mittens for every man in both armies". So the bulk of the Provincial Corps were clothed in standard british uniforms, but in green, with round hats rather than cocked. There are notable exceptions, such as DeLancey's Bde. for starters. In 1779 the Provincial Corps were ordered into red coats and gaiter-trousers, with of course notable exceptions who retained their green coats. |
42flanker | 06 Jan 2017 2:57 a.m. PST |
I believe all hats were supplied round, for ease of storage and transport, and delivered to the troops to be cocked when issued. Or not. |
Supercilius Maximus | 06 Jan 2017 6:30 a.m. PST |
Yes, that's right – it was easier to stack them that way. |
Bill N | 06 Jan 2017 12:00 p.m. PST |
@Major-You say that DeLancey's was an exception. How so? Info I have seen suggests they started out in green like other units and then switched to red, and if you trust Mollo they wore round hats in the south. |
Virginia Tory | 06 Jan 2017 2:09 p.m. PST |
"Volunteers of Ireland" You just had to go there, HG… |
42flanker | 06 Jan 2017 5:42 p.m. PST |
re. 'southward' we are caught between what would seem reasonable adaptations of uniform to deal with local climate, based on what we know happened under certain circumstances, knowing they weren't complete fools and masochists, and what we have evidence for. |
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