Mako11 | 30 Dec 2016 12:46 a.m. PST |
Apparently, the Russians and Putin don't like people monitoring their actions and movements in Eastern Ukraine, so have conducted a cyber attack on the group monitoring the Eastern Ukraine Conflict, and reporting on it: link "Cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike identified Fancy Bear as one of two hacking groups that perpetrated a massive data breach on the Democratic National Committee's computer systems in attacks that were revealed in June of this year. The firm said that "Fancy Bear's profile closely mirrors the strategic interests of the Russian government" and may be connected with the GRU – Russia's primary military intelligence service". |
David Manley | 30 Dec 2016 2:29 a.m. PST |
I wonder if our teams of hackers give themselves cuddly names reminiscent of soft toys? |
grtbrt | 30 Dec 2016 9:44 a.m. PST |
Most don't -not sure of all (many different agencies doing this) One group refers to itself as "Hal" after the computer in 2001 , The funnier names usually are in the private sector competitive edge hackers . |
Legion 4 | 30 Dec 2016 10:38 a.m. PST |
"Hal" ! I like that ! |
Ghecko | 30 Dec 2016 4:07 p.m. PST |
Did you know that if you take HAL and go to the next letter in the alphabet you get IBM. The author used HAL was a veiled dig at IBM and where he thought computers would take society. |
grtbrt | 30 Dec 2016 8:24 p.m. PST |
Actually that is in no way Clarke's view about IBM. He repeatedly denied it in person and in writing as did Kubrick . That is another urban legend with absolutely no validity |
Mako11 | 31 Dec 2016 4:06 a.m. PST |
AND, another. Just hacked into Vermont's electrical grid, supposedly. Wonder what they want there? |
Legion 4 | 31 Dec 2016 9:24 a.m. PST |
Saw that on the news earlier. No matter what, something punitive must be done … Some say hacking is an act of war ? |
Mako11 | 31 Dec 2016 5:00 p.m. PST |
Well, I definitely see it that way. Wonder when people will start using asymmetrical warfare, and start letting cruise missiles or Hellfires fly in response? Of course, some will say that's a bit too far, so perhaps some more devious, smaller steps could be used in response, like poisoning people's cold soup, or putting radioactive pellets on the tips of umbrellas like certain people have been known to do, in order to eliminate the perpetrators. |
Legion 4 | 01 Jan 2017 8:57 a.m. PST |
Now the news said it was not a Russia Cyberattack ?!?!?!??!?!? |
SouthernPhantom | 01 Jan 2017 9:19 p.m. PST |
Typical yellow journalism; it's gotten ridiculous. Malware that is not even linked to Russia was found on a laptop belonging to the utility company. The laptop was not connected to the grid in any way. More 'fake news' from those who invented the term! |
Charlie 12 | 01 Jan 2017 10:11 p.m. PST |
According to this, there is a far larger threat to the electrical grid than hackers: link So, mako, ya wanna start dropping Hellfires on squirrels? |
Legion 4 | 02 Jan 2017 5:55 p.m. PST |
But they're cute little guys ! |
Charlie 12 | 02 Jan 2017 7:53 p.m. PST |
AH HA! You've seen through their clever disguise! |
FatherOfAllLogic | 03 Jan 2017 7:53 a.m. PST |
I don't know, Ewoks were pretty tough on their own turf….. |
Legion 4 | 03 Jan 2017 4:09 p.m. PST |
AH HA! You've seen through their clever disguise! What a great deception plan !!!!!! Cunning little rodents … I don't know, Ewoks were pretty tough on their own turf…..
Yeah but Ewoks are much bigger than any squirrel I've ever seen … I think ? |
grtbrt | 03 Jan 2017 8:04 p.m. PST |
Have you seen the Enhanced Siberian Squirrels?? |
FatherOfAllLogic | 04 Jan 2017 7:35 a.m. PST |
EVERYTHING iz bigr in RUUssia! |
Rod I Robertson | 04 Jan 2017 7:42 a.m. PST |
The false/fake news doesn't always come from Russian sources. link and: link Cheers. Rod Robertson |
Legion 4 | 04 Jan 2017 9:11 a.m. PST |
Have you seen the Enhanced Siberian Squirrels??
Rob/Cyber Squirrels … them sneaking Russkies ! Big Muthas' !! The false/fake news doesn't always come from Russian sources. That seems to be the norm in media reporting overall. Not just the BS click-bait when I go on Facebook. Stallone died 3 times last year ! With the massive introduction of the WWW/net., etc., instead of getting accurate news. The net is flooded with BS, inaccurate data., etc. Like some one pay morons to post that Stallone or Arnold, etc. is dead. So the uninformed click on the link and the buttheads want to sell you car insurance, hook ups or a new regrow hair formula, etc., … Frakk'n Seems like it may not be a new thing …
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grtbrt | 04 Jan 2017 11:17 a.m. PST |
Every News source ,and the vast majority of the people that write or broadcast for them, spreads false and fake news . They all have agenda's – some it's merely to turn a bigger profit ,others to further a political stance and some to harm or bolster opinions relating to a specific person . Every aspect of the news does this (sports , politics, education…) Its just a fact of modern life . the majority of populations don't want to have to worry about different opinions or try to understand complexities of an issue. They accept being told what is real .If someone that thinks as you do says it must be true. Unfortunately this is true the world over . |
Rod I Robertson | 04 Jan 2017 1:39 p.m. PST |
grtbrt: There is a difference between editorial bias and outright fabrication of news stories. The main-stream media used to embrace the former but drew the line at the latter. They knew that if they faked news or made egregious errors in reportage that they would be caught by their competition and pilloried for such action. Today, in a post-factual world where ideology and greed drive the media forward, those old constraints have fallen by the wayside. The nadir of investigative journalism and the retreat from paying for real reporters on the ground have added to the factual information vacuum as well. This suits those in power because a compromised press is no longer an effective watch-dog and constraint on those in power who wish to abuse their mandates. In the days of yore the powers that be had to send around the bully-boys to intimidate the journalists/pamphleteers and to smash their presses. Today a call to friends on boards of directors or judges and legionary, corporate lawyers armed with tort law, gag orders, publication bans and criminal libel/defamation accusations have sometimes made facts and truth too costly to report overtly. One now has to make an effort to get closer to the facts by reading/listening/watching a wide spectrum of media, both domestic and foreign, (some of it contrary to one's own viewpoints) and most people are not willing to do this. The consumer serfs of the modern era are as effectively illiterate as their cousins in the Middle Ages. The only difference is the modern serfs can generally read but choose not to. Cheers(?). Rod Robertson. |
Legion 4 | 04 Jan 2017 5:25 p.m. PST |
Unfortunately this is true the world over.
Agreed … anyone following the recent US political situation sees this very clearly. |
grtbrt | 04 Jan 2017 7:55 p.m. PST |
Rod, I agree there USED to be a difference-a long time ago. Newspapers especially have always fabricated facts within stories . Pilloring by a competitor is not anything a newspaper worries about :then or now . Going back to the premise that those that agree with you will not believe that you lied . Hearst showed that. but it has never been a distinctly American thing (they just have been better at it than others ,until recently). L4 – Very true and unfortunate . It is amusing to listen to die hards on both sides try to explain why their candidate was a paragon and the other was the devil and they use their media of choice as proof . |
Legion 4 | 05 Jan 2017 8:45 a.m. PST |
Yes, it has become a 3 ring circus with the factions, and all forms of the media. I should make some popcorn when I have the news on … |