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Tango0125 Dec 2016 4:01 p.m. PST

Cool!

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Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP25 Dec 2016 6:29 p.m. PST

I would not care to be standing upright in LOS of Soviet armor unit!

11th ACR27 Dec 2016 12:06 p.m. PST

Its Stand or kneel when you lower the tropod some but that about it.

Mako1127 Dec 2016 3:18 p.m. PST

Did they even use TOWs, excepting for on their late, Jaguar II?

Milan and HOT seem to be far more ubiquitous to me, though I know they did eventually use the TOW on their panzerjaegers.

Troops should be prone, or kneeling, unless they're firing over a wall.

11th ACR27 Dec 2016 6:35 p.m. PST

These are the only vehicles I can think of that the West Germans mounted TOW's on.

JgPz Jaguar II
MaK Wiesel I
Kraka ATV Rh202

As far as Ground mounting them, I never saw it in my five years over there during the Cold War.

Yes we normally went to a kneeling position when firing it when dismounted from our M-901's.

Mako1128 Dec 2016 5:35 p.m. PST

Thanks for the reply.

Yea, I've never seen a dismounted, West German TOW team.

Of course, we do know the TOWs can be dismounted, if desired, but I suspect that would rarely, if ever be done in practice.

zoneofcontrol29 Dec 2016 9:41 a.m. PST

Hah! Did a double-take when I saw the thread title. It is too close to the New Years Eve holiday, at first glance I read it as "Budweiser TOW Team". Too bad they didn't model their Wagon and Clydesdale transport vehicle.

Anyway, nicely modeled.

Tango0129 Dec 2016 10:04 a.m. PST

Glad you like them my friend.


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11th ACR29 Dec 2016 12:20 p.m. PST

"Of course, we do know the TOW's can be dismounted, if desired, but I suspect that would rarely, if ever be done in practice."

No not really. We as Cav Scouts on M-901's TOW Jeep's and TOW Humvee's did about 50% of our TOW drills dismounted.

Move out from the vehicle
Set it up.
Tear down, and move to a alternate location.
Remount it on the vehicle.

Our old GDP potions on the West/East German Boarder had a number of primary positions. and each of the mounted potions (M-901) had approximately three dismounted potions near by.

We would start at the dismounted potion farthest away from the M-901.
Fire a Missile, break down move approximately 100 meters set up.
Fire a Missile, break down move approximately 100 meters set up.
Fire a Missile, break down move approximately 100 meters set up.
Break down move approximately 100 meters back to the M-901 reinstate the Sights, M.G.S., the launcher was still loaded with two Missiles.
Fire those Two and try to get the hell back to the next deference potions (next ridge line to the west) and live to tell about it.

We train on this mission all the time.

And I know our AT Plt. did as well.

So using it in the dismounted mode was a normal operation for us.

Same thing for the Jeep and Humvee mounted ones.

CavScout8thCav05 Jan 2017 1:27 p.m. PST

The Jag 2 had the equipment to dismount the system. We ran across a Jag 2 unit on REFORGER once and were comparing our M901's to it. Had a great time chatting shop with the Germans. They rarely if ever dismounted it. The Germman Sgt said it took to long. Lol

11th ACR05 Jan 2017 2:15 p.m. PST

Yea that's how most M-901 crews felt about dismounting the TOW.
It was a pain in training doing those TOW dismount drills.
And always doing it at the run/sprint, as it was a timed drill.

PS
CavScout8thCav when were you in the 8th CAV?
And was it 3/8 CAV?

If so I was next doorat Coleman Bks. Mannheim Germany in the Scout Plt, CSC, 2/13th INF. from Sept of 80 – Sept 82.

CavScout8thCav06 Jan 2017 11:31 a.m. PST

4/8 Cav 3AD, in Gelnhausen 87-89

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