"'Rogue One' Is Actually a World War II Movie" Topic

"In spirt and in tactics, Rogue One has as much in common with The Dirty Dozen as with the other films of the Star Wars canon.

Star Wars was not born in a vacuum. Samurai flicks, sci-fi classics like Dune, adventure serials, and war movies inspired George Lucas's conception of a galaxy far, far away. The new standalone movie Rogue One owes a lot to one of those sources in particular. In its spirit and in its depiction of combat, this is a classic World War II raid movie

All World War II raid movies have similar structures. The team meets, bonds, faces the long-odds mission, performs feats of valor that demonstrate some sort of character development, and most die gloriously to achieve the mission's end. Rogue One has this narrative arc down to a T as its ragtag crew mounts a suicide mission to steal the plans for the Death Star. (These movies fail to realize that highly trained, highly motivated soldiers— not untrained, born-to-lose irregulars—are best able to perform high-risk missions. But let's not digress too far.)…"
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Seven Samurai is claimed to be the first film to have the "gathering of the team scene" in film, so Rogue One then should "actually" be a samurai film.

Just got back from going to see Rogue One.
Now I never was a Star Wars fan.
But hearing this was a stand alone prequel I drcided to go see it.

Don't know if getting cynical in my old age but this movie just didn't do anything for me.
But lately a few movies people have raved about just weren't all that intetesting for me.

I thought it started slow but ended strong. And it sure was great to see Peter Cushing reprise his role as Grand Moff Tarkin!

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That's ok – 'cos the Dirty Dozen is just a western….

Just returned from the movie myself, well with my family. I thought it was excellent, and I am not a big Star Wars fan.

The whole Star Wars franchise is a World War II movie. The Emperor seized power in a similar way that Hitler did.

The whole Star Wars franchise is a Western movie. It involves a people on the frontier fighting a corrupt power structure.

The whole Star Wars franchise and money machine is a trade-in on previous works, from WWII aviation flicks and samurai movies to Holst's and Wagner's music to Joseph Campbell's popular mythology books. More rip-off than synthesis, in my view, but there you are. They are the millionaires and I'm not.

I heard a few years ago the studio pitch for Rogue One was "Dirty Dozen meets Star Wars". I was sold immediately.

Other reviewers have called it another classic heist movie. But they liked it.

I felt the final scenes with Darth Vader were very poorly put together, nothing like the menace and choreography of the opening scenes of the first (IV) Star Wars, it just felt very ho-hum and perfunctory. Otherwise, quite good for a dead end movie.

I thought the last five minutes was the best bit by far.

Enjoyed it from start to finish.

I guess there aren't any plans to make Rogue 2.

@VCarter. Are you kidding?? They're probably writing "Rogue 3" even as we write. LOL

Just goes to show that there are only a few basic plots and they just keep rewriting them in different ways. When you come right down to it *life* is just a few basic plots, but that doesn't mean that it isn't interesting.

I wonder if they will do a D-Day or Pearl Harbour Star Wars rouge 2,3,4 etc?

The sequel is already written, cast, filmed, and edited. I think they're calling "A New Hope" or something silly like that.

The attack on the Death Star in the original was like a WWII carrier film, with the admiral and the Princess listening to the fighter radios. The film was also like western and samurai films.

More like Indian Jones where Jyn is not even needed in the story for it to end the way it did.

There are a couple points where she is essential.

>>The sequel is already written, cast, filmed, and edited. I think they're calling "A New Hope" or something silly like that.<<

Where did you get that information. Last that I read, in the very reliable Total Film, is that Rogue One is a "one off", and that there would be no direct sequel, but there is some discussion about another film. not a sequel, that would be dealing with the destruction of the Death Star.

I hope people are joking when they write about a sequel to Rogue One….. Sometimes it is difficult to tell from brief post on the internet.

But the ending of Rogue One fits almost seamlessly with the 1977 original Star Wars, the one that kids these days are calling A New Hope.

In fact when I got home after seeing Rogue One I immediately popped A New Hope in the DVD and enjoyed it immensely.

It isn't a WWII movie, it is a F&I movie. Or is it an AWI movie?

Star Wars warfare is inherently WWII in space. Everyone knows this!

-Will

As a stand alone film, It is a bit Ho Hum. Solid but not exceptional.
As an entry into the Star Wars films Cannon, a solid addition that answers more questions than it poses or leaves.
The Lineage is obvious, the pacing, old school. To be honest, most of those classic "assemble a team for a mission" films have patchy first halves and this is no exception.

It was fun. With all the expanded universe stuff out there and Disney stating they where only sticking with the film cannon. The options for one offs are endless.