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Zoltar Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2016 1:32 p.m. PST

I have two related questions for an upcoming Pirate Campaign.

First, of the French Regiments, were there one or more that saw more extensive service in the Caribbean in the period 1700-1710?

Second, is there a good source for the uniforms of French Marines of the same period?

Thanks

Mako1130 Nov 2016 2:00 p.m. PST

IIRC, from some of the research I did, all white uniforms and coats are an option.

Can't help wit the regiment info.

AICUSV30 Nov 2016 6:48 p.m. PST

When you ask about the French Marines, who are you asking about? Troops serving on ships or troops stationed in colonies or the regiment La Marine Infanterie ?
For those in North America try this site:
link plate 597

Good luck on finding out who were in the Caribbean, let us know if you do.

T Labienus01 Dec 2016 6:38 a.m. PST

Hi,
On 1700-1710, there is no infantry regiment in the Caribbean, but only the « compagnies détachées de la Marine aux colonies », they are 32 to defend the « Antilles » (French West Indies) :
- 16 are garrisoned in « Saint-Domingue »,
- 10 in the « Îles du Vent » (the Martinique, the Guadeloupe, Sainte-Lucie, the Grenade),
- 6 in « Cayenne » (French Guyana).

In the 1660's, each company is composed with :
1 captain,
2 sergeants,
2 corporals,
2 ampessades,
24 troopers.
In the 1680's this 30 men company is raised to a 50 men company.

The marines are drilled like infantry soldiers, but are also able to use grenades and act as a gunner in order to fight on a ship.

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I hope this will help…

Zoltar Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2016 6:50 a.m. PST

All Greatly helpful. Thank you

pvernon Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2016 1:22 p.m. PST

Question, what is the source for the drawing?

Rawdon01 Dec 2016 3:38 p.m. PST

Perhaps you already know, but the Infanterie de la Marine were NOT Marines in the British or US sense, and were not intended to serve on ships. They instead were conventional infantry intended for service overseas in French colonies. The French actually did not have what we would call Marines in the 18th and early 19th centuries (my knowledge does not extend beyond the end of the Napoleonic Wars).

T Labienus01 Dec 2016 11:54 p.m. PST

Pvernon,
The autot of the drawing is Armand Bournisien de Valmont (1803-1875), an officer of the french marine ministry, who draws uniforms of his time, but also uniforms of the past, some of the sources he used do not exist any more, he had access to them during hir duty.

Rawdon,
Of course you're right, "l'infanterie de marine" don't have se same duties of the "english marine", at first, the dury is the guard of the harbors, in French " defense des places" (1660's), then the guard of the ships in the harbors : "defense des navires" (1670's) and then the guard of the colonies (1680's), but they are different from the "gardes côtes", this last troop is not from the marine ministry.

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T Labienus01 Dec 2016 11:58 p.m. PST

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Personal logo Il Granatiere Supporting Member of TMP06 Dec 2016 8:50 a.m. PST

A little bit out of the period indicated but in 1730, one company of Swiss regiment in French service Karrer was present in Haiti and another in Martinique. May add some color…..

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