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Tango0124 Nov 2016 12:50 p.m. PST

"Great news, people, after a very long wait we finally have the first name in the cast for new STAR TREK: DISCOVERY TV series which will air at CBS next spring and through Netflix around the world! Michelle Yeoh has been announced by one of the show's producers as the new captain!
Sadly, it won't be the lead role since this series will have a female starship lieutenant commander of colour as the protagonist thus marking it as the first of the STAR TREK series that won't have their lead star commanding the ship! Michelle Yeoh will apparently have a reoccurring role as a character named Han Bo a captain of another ship named the Shenzhou and should have an important role in the first season which won't have individual stories in each episode but will follow a longer storyline set ten years before the original series when Star Federation was first venturing into the unknown space. If the rumours are right DISCOVERY will also have a male British doctor aboard and at least one gay character!"
From Hollywood Spy

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Stryderg24 Nov 2016 1:02 p.m. PST

Sounds crappy already.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2016 1:06 p.m. PST

Ah, the modern Hollywood! So we know nothing of the characters' backgrounds or personalities, but we DO know which "affirmative action" block they'd check and who they'd like to have sex with.

This does not persuade me to watch television again.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2016 1:26 p.m. PST

Wow – love the new uniform evil grin

Mako1124 Nov 2016 1:30 p.m. PST

Political correctness run amok.

Yea, looks like they spent a whole dollar on that outfit at the local thrift store, assuming they just didn't pick ALL of it up on the street for free.

Cosmic Reset24 Nov 2016 2:37 p.m. PST

Cool choice for a captain, too bad she won't play the lead character.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2016 4:20 p.m. PST

Unrelated: I don't think that is the new uniform.

Me neither.

Pity. wink

Irish Marine24 Nov 2016 5:47 p.m. PST

Probably won't watch it.

Dynaman878924 Nov 2016 7:10 p.m. PST

New captain. So they are going to ignore Canon once again.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut24 Nov 2016 8:00 p.m. PST

How did my post get deleted and others allowed to remain? Capriciousness, I say! This wouldn't happen wirh a Vulcan in the Chair…

Mitochondria24 Nov 2016 10:20 p.m. PST

They must have had an SJW checklist they went by when developing the characters.

John Treadaway25 Nov 2016 2:30 a.m. PST

I will almost certainly not bother. I look forward (instead) to the next episode(s) of Star Trek Continues.

John Treadaway

KTravlos25 Nov 2016 4:08 a.m. PST

Yes both the captain and the lead will be women, and neither wil be of european descend. Get over it.

PaddySinclair25 Nov 2016 4:16 a.m. PST

@Dynaman8789

I can't see how they would be ignoring canon to be honest, unless you mean one sentence from a slightly deranged ex-lover of Kirk's which could be interpreted in a few ways ;)

Good casting. Older female captain presumably unafraid of Kirk style fisticuffs :)

Dynaman878925 Nov 2016 7:05 a.m. PST

Paddy – Deranged but for which Kirk did not say "Yes they can", he said that some things are not fair…

NOT just that either – the show was not even allowed to have a female first officer.

zoneofcontrol25 Nov 2016 7:15 a.m. PST

Should draw a decent niche following.

15th Hussar25 Nov 2016 7:33 a.m. PST

WOW! Honestly, people are having a problem with Michelle Yeoh and making (borderline) political statements about this?

Really?

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2016 7:49 a.m. PST

Han Bo………pfft…..Han Bolo……

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2016 7:50 a.m. PST

"Yeoh playing a Starfleet Captain."

Not the Capt of DISCOVERY….

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Dynaman878925 Nov 2016 8:11 a.m. PST

I have no problem with Michelle Yeoh, just with them ignoring the unsavory parts of TOS while celebrating the part that they like. This new show would have had a great premise of breaking TOS's original ban on female captains but decided to just ignore it instead.

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2016 8:12 a.m. PST

Rank: Yeohman…..

15th Hussar25 Nov 2016 8:26 a.m. PST

Dynaman… I have no idea what TOS is, but thank you for making a cogent argument, now at least I understand the base factor for this kerfuffle.

Captain Gideon25 Nov 2016 8:34 a.m. PST

Andrew Preziosi don't you know what TOS is?

If you don't it means The Original Series.

This is something that I WON'T waste my time on.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2016 9:16 a.m. PST

"…at least one gay character!"

And let the usual Hollywood pandering begin.

Sadly, this confirms for me that this series won't be about exciting outer space adventure and will instead be a TNG-style navel-gazing show consumed by exploring the personalities of the characters. I'll pass.

15th Hussar25 Nov 2016 9:31 a.m. PST

Never thought OF needed to be capitalized, but got it now. Thanks!

John Treadaway25 Nov 2016 10:44 a.m. PST

I'm with Dynaman8789.

For me it has nothing to do whatsoever with racial, gender or sexual politics.

It's simply to do with a lack of respect for canon.

Every iteration of Trek is something I've only enjoyed approximately 50% as much as the original. So Next Gen 50% as much as the original, DS9 25%, Voyager 12.5%, Enterprise struggles to hit 6% and the JJA films I wouldn't know as I've not been able to watch more than ten minutes.

Based on an imaginary chart I've just pretended to draw, I find that my enthusiasm and their lack of respect for the original seem to be in lockstep so I suspect that – for me – these'll not press my buttons.

I refer you all to my previous post about STC. Good luck with this. I'm very sure it will appeal to some folks.

John T

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2016 3:01 p.m. PST

The show doesn't sound interesting but that Ms. Yeoh and her outfit are terrific.

Mako1125 Nov 2016 5:40 p.m. PST

My sarcasm meter is screaming, and the olde analog pointer is pegged to the limit.

Curses.

Now I'll have to watch an episode or two, just see if she and the new show are as bad as many of the follow-on Trek series shows were.

DesertScrb25 Nov 2016 8:37 p.m. PST

How is this character a departure from canon?

KTravlos26 Nov 2016 3:18 a.m. PST

100 people cast
1 homosexual character-> Hollywood pandering
99 heterosexual characters-> Not Hollywood pandering

Some of you really really suck outside of war-gaming.

Dynaman878926 Nov 2016 5:52 a.m. PST

DesertScrb – as I mentioned further up in the thread there is a direct quote from The Original Series that "A woman can not be a star ship captain". People try to pass that off by saying the character in question was bonkers (and she was) but Kirk's response was not "yes they can" it was something along the lines of "life is not fair". There is also the case of number one from the original pilot being female but the studio execs said she had to go or Spock did, so Spock got to stay and the female XO was shelved.

I'm not sure which gay character is being referred to, my guess is Sulu from the latest movie. I think that was a great nod to George Takei even though I heard a quote from George Takei saying it was a bad idea.

15th Hussar26 Nov 2016 9:01 a.m. PST

Oy, talk about taking "so it was written, so it shall be done" a bit beyond the outer rim!

Mollinary26 Nov 2016 3:35 p.m. PST

GALG!!!!!!!

DesertScrb26 Nov 2016 10:32 p.m. PST

So a new character in a new series that contradicts a throwaway line from a one of the lower quality third-season is enough to ruin the show for people?

What about all the other throwaway lines from other episodes, like where they refer to the United Earth Ship Enterprise? The show didn't even mention a federation, much less the UFP, until it had been on the air for some time.

You know what will keep me from watching this show (besides the fact that it's going to be on a CBS streaming service)? Slavish adherence to canon that distracts from good storytelling.

We all need to take the advice of William Shatner in that Saturday Night Live skit: "Get a life!"

Mithmee27 Nov 2016 7:05 p.m. PST

Won't last pass two seasons.

CeruLucifus27 Nov 2016 10:03 p.m. PST

Michelle Yeoh! Yeah! Always a class act.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP28 Nov 2016 1:46 p.m. PST

100 people cast
1 homosexual character-> Hollywood pandering
99 heterosexual characters-> Not Hollywood pandering

Some of you really really suck outside of war-gaming.

100 people cast
1 homosexual character who is there for the sole and specific purpose of being the token gay character and about whom every plot is, in some way, about them being gay -> Hollywood pandering.

I didn't mind the inclusion of Sulu's husband and daughter in ST: Beyond. I thought it was tastefully done and gave some depth without belaboring the point. But you can tell from the way TNG/DS9/VOY played out that we will not be seeing such subtlety in this show. Instead, there will be entire hour-long episodes devoted solely to exploring why this character is gay and how they live with that, with the implicit message being -- and this, KTravlos, is the part that really ticks me off about Hollywood -- that gay people aren't normal people. That they somehow merit being explored, dissected, and either celebrated or pitied based on that.

I have gay relatives and gay friends, KTravlos. Don't misinterpret my sarcastic comment above as being somehow homophobic. My issue is with how Hollywood makes it clear that gay people are somehow not normal -- whether that is by elevating them to a pedestal of having amazing fashion advice for straight guys or showing them as being flaming drag queens.

Do I have faith in any Star Trek alumni who were writers for Voyager in taking a nuanced and reasoned approach to this? Absolutely not. And that's who is in charge of this new show -- one of the ex-writers for Voyager (and two episodes of DS9, to be fair). So forgive me if I seem cynical, but I think it's warranted, given how personality-obsessed TNG/DS9/VOY were.

Some of you really really suck outside of war-gaming.

I'm so glad that you're so good at reading everyone else's mind and knowing our life stories that you feel confident passing judgment on us. Stay classy.

Mithmee28 Nov 2016 5:03 p.m. PST

Yes this show will more than likely take Social Justice to a whole new level.

So I as well will pass.

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