"1815 Dutch shako's" Topic

I have read various information about the shakos used by the Dutch army in 1815. Is the following correct?
- Dutch militia: British stove pipe shakos
-ex-Belgian line and chasseurs/jagers: British "Belgic"shako
-Dutch line: the old 1814 shako (so not the Austrian one with front and back peak). Only officers had worn these

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Much debate as to whether "Belgian" Netherlands Chasseurs (Light inf regts) did actually wear the Belgic Shako, I recall. Line yes.

Shame that the back peak shako for the Dutch does seem unlikely….would not deter me if I was a wargamer. If my Gendarmes d'Elite can have three Eagles and two kettledrummers………..what looks right works

Belgic shako for South Netherlands (Belgic) line (like the 7th), apparantly all light (Jagers wore the dutch style shako – that is also shown in Osprey 355 from Ronald Pawly and Patrice courcelle and they take their research seriously) Militia in some sort of stove pipe, except the officers in the regulation shako. How many Dutch troops were issued with the "new type shako I don't know, but the double peaked version looks good. The definitive answer (if at all available) might be given by Erwin muilwijk, he researched this army deeper than anyone else in recent years. He used to be on this forum, let's hope he has not left it.

I am confused. Forgive me.

I thought South Netherlands light regts were called Jagers and also wore the "Dutch" style shako, not the Belgic one, of the line.

I understood you never saw a chap in green wearing a Belgic Shako, no matter how often artists have suggested. I think that is what Marcel is saying and it may be my age, or his phrasing……

Also not clear which of the two topics we should respond to . I thought this one…..

Thanks for all the answers
Deadhead, no problem where you answer. It was the all presnt TMP bug again I suppose. After is made a new topic it didn't appear, so made new one (V2) and then number one appeared.
According to this link from the dutch army museum, it shows a belgian jager/chasseur on a plate of courcelle in Belgic shako.
And as Marcel1809 says, Courcelle takes its research serious! But with two outcomes?

All jagers in dutch style indeed, don't forget this was an army justbeing raised from different origins, so there will always be some degree of uncertainty, the regulations were often only fully applied after the actual waterloo campaign or at least after the battle.

Marcel, when i read the article on the dutch site, i doubt the Belgian jagers/chasseurs have the dutch shako. The comments by rob wolters in the article (afaik DrsRob on tmp) is plausible.

As I said it hard to really have the definitive answer but both are possible, I have my jagers on "belgic shako" they were done that way a long time ago and they still look good.

As you all say Courcelle's view is to be respected, but he certainly shows the Belgian Light Infantry regts in the "Dutch" shako with rear peak in the Osprey book.

Most model companies in 28 or 15/188mm scale seem agreed on the same….which is a shame I admit. They look good and different in the Belgic Shako….and who can now prove it one way or another? Indeed both may well be possible in a period of transition.

deadhead,
in the link which Brownbear gave, you see also a picture with both types of jager shako's; the dutch in Austrian Shako and on the right the Belgian shako. This is also a plate of Courcelle from one of his books.
"Patrice Coucelle, Ceux qui Bravailent l'Aigle les uniformes des ennemis de Napoléon (1999 Brussel) blz 84.)" according to the article.

Oh indeed. I went straight to that link when posted and sure enough Courcelle shows just that….now the Belgian Chasseur has the Belgian shako……… Contradicting his Osprey work, which is very definite, in Wellington's Belgian Allies.

Both may well be right. It may well be that no one knows or ever will. Even the Osprey book does show a later print of what they say is a Chasseur assisting a wounded officer, commenting on the unusual portrayal of a waterproof covered Belgian Shako. Unless in colour, I cannot see how he would be distinguished from a flanquer of the light company of a line regt though. Bugle horn badge on the ammo pouch maybe?

I do wonder if there might have been confusion, then, between light company of a line unit (Belgian Shako) and the Light Infantry Regts (Chasseurs or Jagers)….whether shoulder rolls or not on the latter, according to company.