| COL Scott ret | 22 Nov 2016 2:29 a.m. PST |
In the following post Londoncalling opens a discussion "The Battles Every Wargamer Should Know". TMP link So I ask the assembled wisdom and august repository of knowledge that is TMP: What battles should every Wargamer know? |
| ashill2 | 22 Nov 2016 4:01 a.m. PST |
The battle to stop buying every shiny new thing you see! By the way, the result is always the same – the shiny new things win! |
| Dynaman8789 | 22 Nov 2016 5:17 a.m. PST |
Whatever ones they want to play. All others optional. Heck even the ones they want to play can be optional. |
| Weasel | 22 Nov 2016 5:24 a.m. PST |
Gettysburg, Austerlitz and Stalingrad. |
| Volstagg Vanir | 22 Nov 2016 5:33 a.m. PST |
Should Know, right…?
Not necessarily 'wargame'. but actually Know…
… Okee-Dokee, then (cracks knuckles) : Meggido (1457 BC)
Gaugamela (323 BC)
Marathon (490 BC)
Thermopylae (480 BC)
Syracuse (413 BC)
Arbela (331 BC)
Changping (262-60 BC)
Metaurus (207 BC)
Zama (202 BC)
Emmaus (166 BC)
Pharsalus (48 BC)
Teutoburg Forest (AD 9)
Milvian Bridge (320 AD)
Catalun (AD 451)
Badr (AD 624)
Yarmuk (AD 636)
Byzantium (AD 717–18)
Poitiers (AD 732)
Talas River (751 AD)
Lechfeld (955 AD)
Hastings ( AD 1066 …amd All That)
Manzikert (AD 1071)
Hattin (AD 1187)
Tarrain (AD 1191-92)
Ayn Jalut (AD 1260)
Poitiers (AD 1356) Agincourt (1415)
Orléans (1428-29)
Constantinople (1453)
Tenochtitlan (1521)
Cajamarca (1521)
Panipat (1526)
Vienna (1529)
Cajamarca (1532)
Talikota (1565)
Nagashino (1575)
Gravelines (Defeat of the Spanish Armada 1588)
Hansan-do (1592)
Sekigahara (1600)
Naseby (1645) Blenheim (1704)
Poltava ( 1709)
Karnal (1739)
Plassey (1757)
Lexington and Concord (1775)
Saratoga (1777)
Yorktown (1781)
Wabash River (1791)
Valmy (1792) Trafalgar (1805)
Polotsk (1812)
Borodin (1812)
Leipzig (1813)
Waterloo (1815)
Solferino (1859)
Peking (1860)
Geoktepe (1881)
Antietam (1862)
Gettysburg (1863)
Aizu (1868)
Sedan (1870)
Little Bighorn (1876) Tsushima (1905) Tannenberg (1914)
3rd Ypres (Passchendaele 1914)
Belgrade (1914)
1st Marnes (1914)
Gallipoli (1915)
Jutland (1916)
Verdun (1916)
Somme (1916)
Messines (1917)
Arras (1917)
Belleau Wood (1918)
100 Day Offensive (1918) Khalkhin Gol (1939)
Sedan (1940)
Britain (1940)
Crete (1941)
Brody (1941)
Moscow (1941-42)
Midway (1942)
Kharkov (1942)
Guadalcanal (1942-43)
Stalingrad (1942-43)
Kursk (1943)
Monte Cassino (1944)
Anzio (1944)
Philippine Sea (1944)
Leyte Gulf (1944)
Kohima (1944)
D-Day (1944)
the Bulge (1944-45)
Luzon (1945)
Iwo Jima (1945)
Berlin (1945)
Huai-Hai (1948-49)
Dien Bien Phu (1954) Chawinda (1965)
Assal Uttar (1965) June War (Six-Day War 1967) |
 20thmaine  | 22 Nov 2016 6:05 a.m. PST |
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| Winston Smith | 22 Nov 2016 6:24 a.m. PST |
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| Volstagg Vanir | 22 Nov 2016 6:38 a.m. PST |
Gaugamela (1331 BC)
Kadesh (1274 BC)
Marathon (490 BC)
Salamis (480 BC)
Platea (479 BC)
Hydaspes (326 BC)
Syracuse (212 BC
Metaurus (207 BC)
Gai Xia (202 BC)
Carrhae (53 BC) Red Cliffs (208 AD)
Chalons (274 AD)
Siege of Baghdad (1258) Vienna (1683)
Battle of Saragarhi (1897)
Ngoc Hoi Dong Da (1788-89) the Alamo (1836)
Rorke's Drift (1879) Somme (1916) |
 etotheipi  | 22 Nov 2016 7:24 a.m. PST |
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| Allen57 | 22 Nov 2016 7:35 a.m. PST |
knowing a battle which you are gaming may add to the enjoyment of the game but you do not have to know any battles. |
| richarDISNEY | 22 Nov 2016 7:47 a.m. PST |
Me vs. my flatmate for the last beer in the chiller… 7/19/2003.
He never made that mistake again.
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| londoncalling | 22 Nov 2016 7:55 a.m. PST |
I think where I was originally coming from with this question was, which iconic, landmark defining battles should every "well-rounded, well-informed wargamer" have a reasonable appreciation of. Irrelevant of whether they will ever game it or not! I personally like to
1. annoy my wife with trivial but interesting military facts either during films or her soaps
2. Impress my sons with my seemingly encyclopeadic knowledge
3. continue to broaden my historical knowledge to show I am mature and intellectual and don't just spend my time playing with little toy soldiers :) I for one, will certainly look through this thread and sort out future reading. Thanks all… |
| vtsaogames | 22 Nov 2016 9:18 a.m. PST |
A coworker used to call me a regular cesspool of useless information. |
| rustymusket | 22 Nov 2016 9:41 a.m. PST |
Every war gamer should know the battles they want to know. Why others? |
| ironicon | 22 Nov 2016 10:30 a.m. PST |
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| OldGrenadier at work | 22 Nov 2016 10:51 a.m. PST |
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| Ragbones | 22 Nov 2016 11:03 a.m. PST |
I don't know about those I "should" know but I remember every battle in which I lost a family member, friend or colleague. |
| evilgong | 22 Nov 2016 2:47 p.m. PST |
Simultaneous vs alternating movement |
| USAFpilot | 22 Nov 2016 3:19 p.m. PST |
Ancient: Thermopylae
Medieval: Agincourt
Napoleonic: Waterloo
US Civil War: Gettysburg |
| ironicon | 22 Nov 2016 3:27 p.m. PST |
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| Frederick | 22 Nov 2016 4:01 p.m. PST |
Thermoplyae
Cannae
Crecy
Agincourt
Trafalgar
Waterloo
Gettysburg
Jutland
Battle of Britain
Midway
Stalingrad
Kursk
D-Day |
| COL Scott ret | 22 Nov 2016 9:24 p.m. PST |
London, I agree with you it really will become a list for me to look up more battles so that I can enjoy the study. I also am sure that my wife and children love to hear more about what may seem to them to be obscure military history. But then they are not surprised, I have been doing it for years (since before I met my wife) and I even had the great fortune to command a Military History Detachment. Rusty, this is just a list to see something that might inspire me to grow in knowledge. This is not an entrance exam rather a study guide. BTW, some good battles that I want to learn more about. As always trust to TMP members. |
| Gonsalvo | 22 Nov 2016 11:07 p.m. PST |
No Austerlitz? No Leuthen? and Cannae a late addition! And how about a plug for the two famous, crushing victories of my (screen)namesake, Gonsalvo (Gonzalo) de Cordoba, "El Gran Capitan" of Spain, Cerignola (1501) and his "crowning mercy" The Garigliano (1503)? |
| Grignotage | 23 Nov 2016 7:14 a.m. PST |
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| Cyrus the Great | 25 Nov 2016 12:18 p.m. PST |
None from memory, because I can always look them up! |
| Scorpio | 30 Nov 2016 1:00 p.m. PST |
Should? Pfft. Battle of Endor (4 ABY)
Battle of Five Armies (TA 2941)
Battle of Hoth (3 ABY)
Battle of the Pelennor Fields (TA 3019) |
journeys to and from the Australian national convention - and tells us what he thinks of panicking tank hordes and flat terrain!
