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Queen Catherine19 Nov 2016 7:51 a.m. PST

I'm looking at the Pendraken 10mm. They've USA figs but not a complete line. To fill things out a bit, I was considering using British. Kallistra has late war, but no USA, plenty of Brits. Unknown to me if they're interchangeable with Pendraken as they're billed as 12mm, whatever they mean by that.

Did the USA outfit themselves on the British model and would Brit figs be more or less interchangeable, or at least in 10mm?

Thanks for any info.

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2016 8:59 a.m. PST

The web gear differs, but as you say: 10mm.

steamingdave4719 Nov 2016 9:20 a.m. PST

Kallistra are very good figures, but unlikely to match up with Pendraken re height. They are sold as "12mm";overall figure height of the ones I have (mainly medieval ranges) is around 14/15mm. The Pendraken figures I have (lots, from medieval, through LoA to Ww2) are 12/13mm overall height. Newer Pendraken sculpts are definitely bigger than older ones (their LoA cavalry dwarf their WSS range) so it might be worth getting samples to check.

Vigilant19 Nov 2016 1:30 p.m. PST

Lots of club members use the Kallistra figures for WW1 and they do not fit with the Pendraken ones sidewise.

Personal logo Weasel Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2016 3:52 p.m. PST

In 10mm, I'd definitely not flinch at using Brits as Yanks but as mentioned, the different ranges are noticeably distinct.

Queen Catherine19 Nov 2016 8:33 p.m. PST

Thanks, that's what I was figuring, both in the appearance and the relative fig sizing.

Out of curiosity – did the BRitish actually outfit the Yanks in their gear, or did the USA just make similar gear according to specs?

GuyG1320 Nov 2016 4:23 p.m. PST

I haven't seen the figures, but the web gear is completely different and I would think that would be noticeable.

The 27th and 30th US Divisions spent their whole war fighting with the British, using all British weapons, and by the end a fair amount of British uniforms (with US Buttons and insignia swapped). I have not seen a Doughboy with P-08 webbing however.

AICUSV20 Nov 2016 5:33 p.m. PST

I have seen US uniforms made in Britain and cut on British patterns. I have seen photos of US troops serving with the French wearing French belts and pouches. But I have not seen and US troops in Brit webbing.
The most common item between US and GB troops was the tin hat. US troops were issued British made helmets as well as good old Made in the USA ones. The "Liberty Bell" helmet (a few of which did make it to the trenches) was deemed to close to the German in appearance.

Queen Catherine11 Mar 2017 1:11 p.m. PST

So what I'm hearing is that the only real difference between most US troops and British would be the webbing, not the gear or helmet. I'm assuming that the US forces therefore used their own webbing, altho they used British helmets, pouches, etc, and such.

Anyone have pics or visual cues on the webbing differences?

I read that there were some US colored troops who fought with the French and had French helmets – did they also use their uniforms, gear, etc?

It's all a bit complicated.

I'm primarily interested in the U.S. 28ID, anyone know how they were kitted out?

Terry3711 Mar 2017 8:28 p.m. PST

I recently finished some Americans in 15 MM using Peter Pig British figures. True the jacket collar is different, and the web gear is different and a slightly different color. But after painting the collars to look like the closed American collar and the web gear in an overall light khaki color they look fine to me. I suppose a "stitch Nazi" would balk, but for me they look fine. You can see them here

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The only American troops I know who wore French web gear were the black troops of the 93rd Division. They also wore French Adrian helmets.

Terry

MadMax1712 Mar 2017 6:29 a.m. PST

Some info on the African-American units of WW1: https://ebonydoughboys.org/index-3.html

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