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Keithandor Inactive Member17 Nov 2016 12:15 a.m. PST

Has anyone got an order of battle for the battle of Dunbar 1650 ?

mollinary17 Nov 2016 2:36 a.m. PST

Osprey Dunbar by Stuart Reid. Campaign Series No 142.


bc1745 Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 11:38 a.m. PST

English OOB

During the night, while the Scots rested uncomfortably in rain-soaked fields, Cromwell used the darkness and heavy rain to cover the redeployment of his army. The battle line along the Broxburn was abandoned and the English army stacked up, one brigade behind another, across the Berwick road. Around 7,500 infantry and 3,500 cavalry were fit to fight on the morning of 3 September.

The leading brigade was commanded by Major-General Lambert. It comprised the cavalry regiments of Lambert, Fleetwood and Whalley. Behind Lambert's brigade, Colonel Robert Lilburne commanded a second cavalry brigade made up of Lilburne's, Hacker's and Twistleton's regiments. The two cavalry brigades probably comprised 1,500 men each. The English vanguard was completed by an infantry brigade of around 2,000 men under the command of Colonel George Monck, comprising the regiments of Monck, Malverer and Fenwick. The vanguard was under the overall command of Lieutenant-General Fleetwood. It was supported by two more infantry brigades of around 2,500 men each. Colonel Pride's brigade comprised his own regiment and the foot regiments of Cromwell (commanded by Lieutenant-Colonel Goffe) and Lambert. Colonel Overton's brigade comprised the regiments of Coxe, Daniel and Charles Fairfax. Cromwell's own regiment of horse acted as a reserve, brigaded with two companies of John Okey's dragoons. The remainder of Okey's dragoons mounted guard along the edge of the Broxburn to cover the English artillery, which was deployed on rising ground to overlook the Scottish left wing.

From here

mollinary17 Nov 2016 1:37 p.m. PST

Great site!


Keithandor Inactive Member17 Nov 2016 4:15 p.m. PST

Ok thanks guys.
I have the Osprey book now and with all the other resources I think I can design a reasonable scenario.
I like to have the names and rough dispositions so I can get a feel for what took place , then make a decent battle of it.
The numbers are very sketchy , Cromwell seems to have exaggerated the Scots numbers. I intend to make it a fairly even match up to make a battle of it, with poorer quality and numbers for the Scots Cavalry , lighter Guns etc.

bc1745 Supporting Member of TMP18 Nov 2016 12:11 p.m. PST

Keith….allot of the accounts would suggest that the nma only had light guns the heavier pieces being already embarked on the ships..while the returns for captured Scottish artillery show that they had many more guns, all be it over a greater range of calibers…..lots of frames me thinks!!

The Scots had more men but of poorer training……the Scottish Cavalry, traditionally their strongest arm was probably up to strength. Remember they had been sitting in the lines around Edinburgh not slogging through a waste land harassed by enemies……

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