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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Nov 2016 11:49 p.m. PST

From among the Crusades, do you have a favorite crusader?

Robert Burke16 Nov 2016 11:58 p.m. PST

Baldwin IV (the Leper King) has always been a favorite of mine. His courage, in the face of a slow and certain death from leprosy, was awe inspiring.

Old Peculiar17 Nov 2016 12:12 a.m. PST

Bohemund for me, just a totally ruthless and conniving individual, the perfect medieval landgrabber!

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 2:08 a.m. PST

Legolas

MHoxie17 Nov 2016 2:37 a.m. PST

Eleanor of Aquitaine, and her Amazons.

Oh Bugger17 Nov 2016 2:37 a.m. PST

Saladin.

Texas Jack17 Nov 2016 2:59 a.m. PST

Give me Richard the Lionheart. Without him we wouldn´t have all those great Robin Hood pictures!

Todd McLeister17 Nov 2016 3:08 a.m. PST

Batman. He's caped.

Oh Bugger17 Nov 2016 3:41 a.m. PST

We have a winner.

Catiline17 Nov 2016 3:47 a.m. PST

ARV Mk1

1ngram17 Nov 2016 4:14 a.m. PST

William Clito (the Prince). He was the son of Robert of Normandy who was shut up in a Welsh castle by his brother Henry 1 for years. Henry pursued his nephjew William with the clear aim of killing him because he would be an obvious claimant to his throne when he died. As a result William was forced to flee all over the place to escape his uncle's wrath even going to Outremer as a crusader for a time.

Eventually the King of France supported him in an attempt to become Count of Flanders as a counterweight to the Normans but he died (of disease I think) in the middle of this war.

charliemike17 Nov 2016 4:51 a.m. PST

I'm with Robert Burke, Baldwin IV is one of my favourite historical characters.
I also like Frederick II for his bloodless recovery of Jerusalem while excommunicated (and for other reasons).

Chalfant17 Nov 2016 5:09 a.m. PST

Robert of Flanders, though I always like the stories of Robert Short Breeches and Tancred too.

Chalfant

Yesthatphil17 Nov 2016 5:27 a.m. PST

I do like Bohemond's story but let's have a shout for …

Godfrey de Bouillon

Phil

Razor7817 Nov 2016 5:32 a.m. PST

Easy one, James d'Avesnes, who was the highest ranking knight killed during the crusades at the battle of Arsuf. Only because I am a direct descendent of his.

David Manley17 Nov 2016 5:47 a.m. PST

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Rod I Robertson17 Nov 2016 6:28 a.m. PST

My vote goes to the infamous Reynald de Chatillion (known as Arnot to the Arabs). He was possibly the most despicable crusader of note in the 12th Century. He was ambitious, clever, violent, vengeful and ruthless. Fortunately these strengths were tempered by his greed, his impulsiveness and his tendency towards incompetence despite his very considerable military skills. He built and trained a small fleet of ships on the Dead Sea and then had it disassembled, packed by animals across the desert, reassembled at the top of the Red Sea and used it to raid the Arabian coast. He sacked Jeddah but was unable to sack Mecca and Medina. He kidnapped a female cousin of Salah al Din and a Christian bishop of Antioch who he tortured for not supporting him in a marriage claim. He slaughtered Armenians for the Byzantine emperor in so bloody a manner that it would have impressed the Ottoman Turks 650 years later. He sacked Cyprus, a Christian Kingdom and his fraternal Crusader Kingdoms as well as Arab controlled lands. He spent 16 years in prison awaiting the payment of a huge ransom to his captor Nur al Din which no one seemed willing to pay. Finally, he lost his head immediately after the battle at the Horns of Hattin in 1187 CE. What a total swine he was, a giant among crusaders!

For a slightly kinder version of his achievements please see:

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Cheers.
Rod Robertson.

Todd McLeister17 Nov 2016 6:52 a.m. PST

Cool. Batman would still kick his ass though.

Perris070717 Nov 2016 6:56 a.m. PST

Bohemund. Embodied the age. Anna's account of him was "slightly" biased.

Just Jack Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 7:57 a.m. PST

Ha! I'm with David Manley, 'Last of the Gunfighters,' first thing that popped in my head.

V/R,
Jack

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 8:06 a.m. PST

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Great War Ace17 Nov 2016 8:14 a.m. PST

Bohemond, beyond question.

I also greatly enjoy Baldwin I, erstwhile count of Edessa. His exploits are very cool reading. I made him a central character in my novel.

Reynald of Chatillon as Graham Shelby depicted him. Ditto his version of Gerard de Ridefort, Grandmaster of the Templars.

Hugues de Payens, founder of the Templars.

HidaSeku17 Nov 2016 11:22 a.m. PST

Long live King Richard!

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 12:02 p.m. PST

Another vote for Richard with Saladin a close second.

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 12:16 p.m. PST

This one:
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or Baldwin the IV

or Saladin

Knight of St John17 Nov 2016 12:34 p.m. PST

Jean de Valette the Grand Master Of the Knigts of St John.
Michael.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2016 12:44 p.m. PST

My DBA Crusader army has Eleanor and the Amazons.

GreyONE17 Nov 2016 1:08 p.m. PST

Tancred. A man who led by example, feared nothing, trusted only in the knowledge that his skills and bravery would carry the day.

Dave Arrowsmith17 Nov 2016 8:14 p.m. PST

Martin Luther. Hunyadi Janos.

Militia Pete18 Nov 2016 4:27 a.m. PST

Indiana Jones

Great War Ace18 Nov 2016 9:44 a.m. PST

@miniMo: Come on, you can't say that and not post a pic!…………

rmaker18 Nov 2016 12:57 p.m. PST

Martin Luther

Actually, Dr. Luther stated that Crusades were an illegitimate form of Christian activity.

Benvartok18 Nov 2016 5:09 p.m. PST

Tony Blair

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