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Tango0131 Oct 2016 9:09 p.m. PST

Interesting discussion here…

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Ah!… nobody said there… but there were Russian units armed with bows who has been in combat against the French in some Napoleonic Battles…

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2016 5:01 a.m. PST

I am sure the Ottomans would have had some bow armed troops as well.

4th Cuirassier01 Nov 2016 7:42 a.m. PST

There is a picture in Uniforms of the Retreat from Moscow of a Bashkir horse archer!

Pan Marek01 Nov 2016 8:34 a.m. PST

The linked discussion seems to assume that we are smarter than the folks living in the age of the musket. There are primary sources that attribute the decline of the longbow to lack of practice. Native Americans wanted firearms as soon as they saw them, and fought almost exclusively with muskets as early as the 1680s. Who are we to second guess those who experienced things first hand?

rmaker01 Nov 2016 7:55 p.m. PST

I have to say that anybody who thinks he's going to stop a bear with a 50-pound pull bow deserves what the bear is going to do to him.

Tango0102 Nov 2016 11:28 a.m. PST

(smile)


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4th Cuirassier02 Nov 2016 2:12 p.m. PST

I am always puzzled by the effectiveness of ballistae in ancient times. AIUI these were essentially big bow-like weapons that mechanically threw a 3 or 4lb weight a couple of hundred yards. Compared to a Napoleonic artillery piece that chemically threw a 3 or 4lb weight several times further, ans was even then a bit feeble, why did anyone give a stuff about being under ballista fire?

Brechtel19802 Nov 2016 3:00 p.m. PST

The French called the Bashkirs, et al, Cupids because of their bows.

14Bore04 Nov 2016 4:51 p.m. PST

If you have a Russian Napoleoic Army and no bow armed Bashkirs you're not really trying.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2016 10:13 p.m. PST

I am always intrigued by this sort of discussion, since I remember in earlier days of wargaming reading English longbow enthusiasts earnestly arguing that a longbow army could have chewed up Napoleon at Waterloo due to high rate of fire and no armor protection by their opponents. But then, I also remember reading debate whether or not Alexander's Macedonian army with its pikes and missile troops and heavy cavalry could have done the same thing.

Retiarius911 Nov 2016 1:17 p.m. PST

the battle of zorndorff by wojciech kossak has a cossack firing a parthian shot with his bow at prussian curraisiers , very cool painting, albeit 7 years war

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