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Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 7:21 a.m. PST

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I've started ramping up a new game and 54mm Wooden models,called Breaking Lances. Here's a few pictures of some of the models and a tournament play test in action.

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For more pictures and an AAR, point your lances towards my blog skullandcrown.blogspot.com

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Cheers!
Ths

surdu2005 Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 7:34 a.m. PST

Is Breaking Lances a set of rules that is available for download and/or purchase?

Buck Surdu

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 7:42 a.m. PST

Buck- it is in edit and layout stage at this point. Hope to have it ready by Christmas
Cheers
Ths

Doug MSC Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 8:48 a.m. PST

Looks interesting Tom. Hope it does very well. I also like the look of the new style horses.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 9:07 a.m. PST

That could be fun.

Personal logo Dale Hurtt Supporting Member of TMP27 Oct 2016 7:49 p.m. PST

Love the look of the figures.

Part time gamer23 Nov 2016 11:47 p.m. PST

These 'guys' fall somewhere between really simple and totally amazing! I dont even have 54's and my 'wish list' just got longer (gee thanks) lol

Are these basically 'one peice' models? I.e. simply glue to the base and then paint? Or do the shield and lance have to be attached seperatly?

I'm Very curious. How did you get such great 'chainmail' effect on the armor? Are the arms textured to allow for dry brushing?

The Very Best of Luck with this project, they really look cool.

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Nov 2016 9:20 p.m. PST

Part time Gamer- the knights are 5 piece models. 2 sides, a base and then right arm (lance) and left arm (shield).

Simply glue together with a wood glue and then paint directly on the wood, using standard minis acrylic paints, or felt pens, or colored pencils, etc. No priming needed. I recommend thinning your paint down a bit more than usual on a miniature, as the wood absorbs the liquid a bit quicker.
Here is a picture from my blog showing some knights WIP, that should give you an idea of how they are assembled and painted.

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As to the chain mail, I use three different greys and paint up in a NMM style, really letting the lines of the mail pick up the details.

Cheers
Ths

Gone Fishing02 Dec 2016 4:30 p.m. PST

These are extremely tempting. I love the Medieval look to them, like they leapt right out of an illuminated manuscript (which to a degree I see they did).

Can you tell us what brand of paints you use for the gorgeous blue and yellow in the above picture?

Please keep us posted on future developments!

Part time gamer03 Dec 2016 3:54 a.m. PST

*S & K,
Thanks for the reply and info. Felt pens or colored pencils, I would have never thought of those. But then I have zero experience with wooden mini's.
And I certainly cant agrue with your results that is for certain. I assume for 'safty', based on the look, there finished with a a matt spray.

Im actually picturing a 'battlefield' of these guys facing off.

And I second the motion:
"Please keep us posted on future developments!"

Part time gamer03 Dec 2016 11:59 p.m. PST

Part time gamer
*S & K,
Im actually picturing a 'battlefield' of these guys facing off.
On that note, I had intended to ask if you had plans or considered doing any of the mounted knights with close combat weapons, i.e. sword, mace, battleaxe?

See these guys have gotten in my head and the ideas are beginning to run with them (big fan of the 'Knights of the Round Table legend).
In fact I have close to perhaps slightly more than 50 28mm GW Ive collected here & there over some 20 odd years (and once or twice some of them even made it to the battlefield lol).

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Dec 2016 8:38 p.m. PST

Part time-
Yes, I have currently designed two sword arms and an axe arm that will fit on both foot and mounted knights. Haven't done mace yet.

Foot nights should be done in late December some time.

Cheers! and keep watching

Thomas
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Part time gamer05 Dec 2016 11:56 p.m. PST

Yes, I have currently designed two sword arms and an axe arm that will fit on both foot and mounted knights. Haven't done mace yet.
WEEEEE DOGGGY!
(who needs a car repaired anyway) and the walk will be good for me. Doc's been after me to loose a little wt. anyway.

If I 'live' long enough to complete just my "To Get List".. I will never die.
Oh my aching bank account. lol

By NO means telling you your business, your doing it great as is, but a thought..
Selling the mounted (or foot also) in pairs, and a "weapon sprue" seperatly w/ 2 swords, an Ax and a Mace to allow the gamer to make even more variation on a great idea you've started.

Either way..
Best of Luck with this S & K

Gone Fishing06 Dec 2016 6:34 a.m. PST

May I quietly repeat the question as to what blue and yellow you are using? I love their vibrancy.

Oh, and I echo all Part Time's enthusiasm. These fellows might be my next project.

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2016 8:37 a.m. PST

Gone Fishing- Thanks for the interest and sorry I missed your question.

The blue on the half painted lad is Citadel enchanted blue, which translates well as a good true ultramarine (like lapis, not too reddish like some modern versions). I'll most likely highlight with mixing it and white and use P3 Exile blue (prussian blue) for shading.

As to yellows I'm all over the place still experimenting. Currently using Citadel golden yellow for my mid tone (its a Cadmium yellow medium color), Citadel vomit brown (yeah I know) mixed with it for my shadow, and for highlights a P3 Cygnus and sulfuric yellows.

Hope that helps?

Should have some finished pictures of these fellows up on my blog by the weekend.
Cheers
Ths

Gone Fishing07 Dec 2016 6:46 a.m. PST

Very much obliged, Thomas, thank you! Most helpful indeed! I'll watch this space for further developments.

Daryl

Part time gamer08 Dec 2016 3:20 a.m. PST

I was looking back at the 2 "new" unpainted models you have for display and just wondering;
Have you experimented with painting over any of the etched images to 'test' to see if they bleed thru?

As to the chain mail, I… paint up in a NMM style..
at the risk of my ignorance showing, Im not familar with "NMM style", or Im just not thinking right.

So far Im counting 'Six' variations of your designs. 2 in the 1st pic, 1 in 3rd (Rt) and 3 on your WIP bench.
To paraphrase the line from Jaws:
"Your going to need a bigger Book." (catalog)

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Dec 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

Gone Fishing- Glad it helps. As you can guess I'm all over the place with brands of paint and I encourage you to experiment. For updates you should check out my blog for more updates or my Wooden Wars Face book page. Or, you know, here too :)
Part Time-
NMM is non metallic Metallic painting. Think of it as traditional canvas style painting where they had no actual metallic paints so had to "fake" it. I do this as my wooden soldiers are designed from period manuscripts or (in the case of my Napoleonics)print work. In my mind it just goes more towards the look I'm going for, but I've also seen really cool results from using "standard" metallics.

This is a picture of how I paint gold in NMM that I did up for my blog.

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As to the etching being covered by paint- just the opposite. As long as you are not slathering the model in paint the lines pop right back. Here is a link to my Blog where I paint up a couple of models step by step, and you can see the lines coming through.
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Variations of knights: Currently I have 8, with 4 more in the works. Also working on the foot knight versions of all of them.

Cheers!
Ths

Part time gamer10 Dec 2016 2:26 a.m. PST

*S & K,
Thanks for taking the time to fill me in on the NMM painting style. It certainly works for you. I may try it sometime.
As for me, like you my paints var. A tip from another gamer at our GS, got me started to use more craft store paints and by and large very happy w the results.

As for your list of knights, it sounds like 'one – two' ideas took off, and became five, which lead to 8 and soon to be a dozen.
Its been said; "Action leads to inspiration."

Personal logo Skull and Crown Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Dec 2016 9:14 a.m. PST

Part Time-
Craft paints work pretty well on the woodens. Depending on the quality you may have to do a couple of coats to make it work, but they flow well and the price is right!

More knights up soon, including foot versions!
Cheers
Ths

Part time gamer27 Dec 2016 11:31 p.m. PST

Great to see you back S & K, I hope Everyone had a great Christmas and Holiday this week.

Skull and Crown
Craft paints work pretty well on the woodens…you may have to do a couple of coats.., but they flow well and the price is right!
It certainly is. As for using a 'cpl of coats', that would be no big deal to get results close to what you get.
I would suggest others "try" Craft paints, you may be pleasently surprised. Many get really good results, and as you mentioned, the price is great.

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