Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Oct 2016 10:48 a.m. PST |
WYSIWYG means "what you see is what you get." |
Joes Shop | 26 Oct 2016 10:50 a.m. PST |
Well…yeah, but without the 'Nazi' part! |
79thPA | 26 Oct 2016 10:58 a.m. PST |
I am not sure I understand the question. Are you asking if I am the,"Your figure doesn't have a pistol, so you can't say you have a pistol" kind of guy? |
Winston Smith | 26 Oct 2016 10:59 a.m. PST |
Nope. If I don't have a Humber Armoured car, I'll use a Daimler. A SidKaFizz is what the German says it is. Unless it's a "special" Sherman, it's what the owner says it is. |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 26 Oct 2016 11:08 a.m. PST |
I believe this question violates the Nazi rule. |
XRaysVision | 26 Oct 2016 11:15 a.m. PST |
No, I don't have, nor expect others, to have enough money to have every variation of weaponry that might occur. Furthermore, I've substituted figures and used unpainted <<gasp!>> figures when trying out rules before investing in an army or supplements. |
Old Contemptibles | 26 Oct 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
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15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 26 Oct 2016 11:37 a.m. PST |
Absolutely. I don't like surprises. If WYSIWYG is not adhered to, it would lead to widespread cheating and people making things up to take advantage of you. "Wait, my space marine's bolter is actually a plasmagun." |
Weasel | 26 Oct 2016 11:40 a.m. PST |
Not in the slightest. Heck, I used WW1 1/72 scale Germans as Ratling snipers in one game and a friend used a stuffed hamster toy as a Juggernaut of Khorne. We don't play very competitively, but if the guy has a big gun, it can be any big gun. LIke hell am I going to try and identify every single Laserburn git and what gizmo they carry :-) We do make clear before the game starts what every unit is, though. If you play competitively, I think you have to adopt it to some extent though, to avoid the "Oh no, it was THIS soda can that had the doomsday weapon" syndrome. |
Extra Crispy | 26 Oct 2016 11:53 a.m. PST |
No. But I spell out in advance what things are. So unless you said prior to play commencing that this dude with a bolter really has a V2.0 Kill-O-Zap Ray of Death and Woe, then sorry, it's a bolter. A Sherman is a Sherman in a Sherman. I can't afford every stinkin' variant…. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 26 Oct 2016 12:04 p.m. PST |
In a large battle with numerous miniatures, it can be difficult to keep track of which model has which non-represented weapon. I still say wysiwyg should be adhered to whenever possible to avoid any potential argument. |
Dynaman8789 | 26 Oct 2016 12:18 p.m. PST |
As long as a halftrack is not filling in for a tank I'm good. |
Dale Hurtt | 26 Oct 2016 12:28 p.m. PST |
Yes, when I am playing in a tournament against strangers. Otherwise, no, as long as we have "the discussion" first. |
nickinsomerset | 26 Oct 2016 12:30 p.m. PST |
If I play Borodino in 15mm I have to employ some Russian 1805 Cavalry and Artillery, Tally Ho! |
Texas Jack | 26 Oct 2016 12:47 p.m. PST |
Not me either, just last Saturday I had a battery of 6pdrs and one of 8pdrs, but all guns were in reality models of 6pdrs. Whatever. |
Parzival | 26 Oct 2016 2:23 p.m. PST |
I think the term "Nazi" gets used way too much, but to answer the point of the question, no, I am not, provided everyone understands prior to battle that this particular lineman is now an eligible receiver, as it were. (Okay, for the non-American-footballers among us, "this dude with the pistol is actually holding a Gatling gun like that guy in Predator"). But the dude in question had best be singularly identifiable or significantly marked in some way so that no confusion results. "Sorry, dude, the Coke can has the Doomsday weapon. The Pepsi is just another trooper." |
The Nigerian Lead Minister | 26 Oct 2016 3:53 p.m. PST |
No, as long as it is made clear ahead of time and I have some e way to indicate a different figure. We did use a stuffed rat as a Hellpit Abomination in a skaven army in fact. In a tournament no less! I sculpted a Swiss cheese hat for him to wear! |
McKinstry | 26 Oct 2016 4:25 p.m. PST |
As others have said, as long as the unit/figure is identified clearly for what it is, fine by me. My 6 & 10mm horse archer units have done repeated duty as generic light cavalry horse archers over a 1200 year span. |
etotheipi | 26 Oct 2016 4:59 p.m. PST |
Well, I have played the Battle of Puebla with Green and Red Martians and two Japanese clans the last two years. I really need to get a new set of Mexicans and French … But, yes, WYSIWYG. This one is a miniature. That one is a miniature. The other one over there is a miniature. That's what you got. |
Yesthatphil | 26 Oct 2016 5:37 p.m. PST |
No … everything is what it ought to be … if a particular figure has some peculiar feature, that is largely irrelevant. Common sense. Phil |
brass1 | 26 Oct 2016 6:42 p.m. PST |
Having gamed (briefly) with people who once insisted that a unit of Napoleonic French dragoons couldn't be put on the table because the galloons (whatever the h__l those are) were the wrong color, I am willing to accept pretty much anything, as long as know what they're supposed to be before the game begins. The galloons had better be the right color, though. LT
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olicana | 27 Oct 2016 4:04 a.m. PST |
A PzIVF1 can be MkD without explanation but, a PzIVF2 can't be an H unless everyone knows before the game that is what they represent – and then only providing everyone sneers. Likewise a Russian SYW hussar could double as an Austrian SYW Hussar but not as a cuirassier – having said that, I sometimes use my Austrian Althann Dragoons (DRiii) as Austrian cuirassier because the two are almost indistinguishable from the back and everyone thinks they are cuirassier anyway – it's their, (uniquely for SYW Austrian dragoons) white coats with red facings; their 'possible duality' is why I chose to do them. Multi-tasking troops in certain periods is to be applauded, The Great Italian Wars of the 16th century being a case in point as almost all troops can be found in any army. The trick, of course, is not to get caught out by the flags on command bases – which is why all my flags for that period are interchangeable:
Top tip: link |
Decebalus | 27 Oct 2016 5:06 a.m. PST |
More or less (like Olicana). I can live with all French Husars are only C morale, but not with: the red Husars are Cuirasiers and the red ones with Busby are Lancers. |
Patrick R | 27 Oct 2016 11:46 a.m. PST |
I'm quite happy to have a similar model if the right one is not available. As long as it is clearly agreed upon what it actually represents. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 27 Oct 2016 12:50 p.m. PST |
I lean toward WISWYG, so I guess I'm only a fellow traveller. Wait, does the far right have fellow travellers, or is that only the left? |
wrgmr1 | 27 Oct 2016 6:13 p.m. PST |
Our group will substitute figures on occasion, I'm doing it tonight actually. As long as everyone knows, no big deal. |
richarDISNEY | 28 Oct 2016 8:08 a.m. PST |
Nope. I'm just there to get some laughs, roll some dice and hang out with friends.
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XRaysVision | 28 Oct 2016 11:13 a.m. PST |
Wow. I had to look up "galloon." "a narrow ornamental strip of fabric, typically a silk braid or piece of lace, used to trim clothing or finish upholstery" …learn something everyday… |
Micman | 31 Oct 2016 7:41 p.m. PST |
We usually play WYSIWYG unless stated before the game that it is something different. |
bobm1959 | 06 Nov 2016 10:56 a.m. PST |
WYSIWIG seems to be a much bigger issue in Fantasy and SF than historical….which is a bit odd really |