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Tango0115 Oct 2016 10:31 p.m. PST

"The Iraqi military's looming offensive to retake Mosul from ISIS promises to be not only its largest operation but also its toughest test as ISIS fighters have had more than two years to prepare elaborate defenses inside Iraq's second largest city.

"The size of Mosul makes this by far the largest task the ISF [Iraqi Security Forces] has undertaken to date, an order of magnitude larger than the liberation battles in cities like Ramadi, Fallujah and Sharqat," Col. John Dorrian, the U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, told reporters earlier this week.

Last year, American military officials said it could take as many as 20,000 Iraqi military forces to retake Mosul. Since then, the U.S. military's training, advise and assist mission in Iraq has been focused on readying ISF to retake the city held by ISIS since 2014. That training is now almost complete with the last of 12 Iraqi Army combat brigades, numbering between 800 and 1,600 troops, ready to complete its training in a few weeks.

Senior American military officials have said in recent weeks that Iraq's military forces are now prepared to undertake a Mosul offensive but that timing of the operation will be made by Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi.

The offensive on Mosul will likely follow the pattern used successfully by the Iraqi military to retake the cities of Ramadi and Fallujah…"
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2016 9:55 a.m. PST

It may be a very bloody action … with the vast majority of the loses being Daesh … hopefully …

Tango0116 Oct 2016 2:48 p.m. PST

Hope so too!.

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Deadles16 Oct 2016 6:13 p.m. PST

with the vast majority of the loses being Daesh

Somehow don't know about this. The Iraqis faced hellish fights to take over far smaller cities that Daesh had fortified.

Now we're talking about a massive city that usually houses 2 million inhabitants.

This could get close to Aleppo. And just like Aleppo not all the co-belligerents are allies (ie Sunni militias v Shia militias v Kurds v potentially turkmen with Iraqi army thrown in for good measure).

And once Daesh is out, it could resort to Aleppo Mk 2 by default.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2016 8:56 a.m. PST

with the vast majority of the loses being Daesh … hopefully
That was my opinion/hope. Not a fact … as of yet … if at all. It's ongoing now. So we may know in te next week or so, how it goes. As I said on anther thread. . It seems the Iraqis will have to bring their best game. And at this point. It's Show time Iraqis … you're in the big show … don't drop the ball …

Of course, my contention is and always has been. The more of the enemy, in this case Daesh, is killed today, the better. There will be that many less tomorrow to deal with. And if they get replacements for those loses. Then repeat the process …

If the Daesh from Mosul retreats into Raqqa. They have to know that Assad & the Russians are very much less circumspect about CD. Than the US/West. So it may be a no win situation for the "poor" Daesh fighters … Which is 100% fine with me …

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