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Ottoathome08 Oct 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

I game in world War Two Naval. I use 1:1200 ships. My games are fleet actions with plenty of air and sea interaction.
I use Imagi-nations. One of the more problematic aspects of this is that ships are well known and players often have difficulty separating the ship model from the statistics. As in Land games, Imagi-Nation afficianados have an eclectic sense of using miniatures and will use all kinds. This can be done in the same way for naval games. The ship model is nominal and merely a token, it is the statistics on the ship card or in the game that is definitive. For example using HMS Agincourt in a slightly modernized version for WWII, as one case or in completely made up models, or a carrier from the imagi-nation of Terramasu called the "Kanukazoo."

Has anyone else tried using the Imagi-nation idea in WWII naval?

Kevin C08 Oct 2016 8:41 p.m. PST

I just finished watching "The Siege of Jadotville on Netflix. If you have an interest in conflicts in modern Africa, then I would highly recommend it. It was as good of movie as "Wild Geese" or "Dogs of War".

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2016 1:30 a.m. PST

Heh, Heh, Heh….

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I strike again!

Travellera09 Oct 2016 2:58 a.m. PST

I saw the movie yesterday and found it also quite good. I am planning doing a Congo game in 28mm. I wonder if we can trust that the Irish in Jadotville did not use helmets?

Buckeye AKA Darryl09 Oct 2016 5:08 a.m. PST

Who would make suitable figures (not for the bug of course) in 15mm for Jadotville?

Perhaps they did wear helmets?

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Irish Marine09 Oct 2016 5:08 a.m. PST

I watched yesterday and it was really well done. I knew a little of the story but now I would like to know more, so I think I'll be buying the book in the near future. I'm also curious concerning the weapons the Irish carried, I've read articles that said they carried Lee-Enfields, Sterling sub machine guns, Bren guns and had Vickers machine guns, I just don't recall ever reading they had FN's, and if so how were they handed out.

Daniel S09 Oct 2016 10:06 a.m. PST

AFAIK the Irish service SMG was the Carl Gustaf m/45 aka "Swedish K" which I've certainly seen in pictures of Irish troops in the Congo. The Katangese gendarmes and the mercenaries were liberaly supplied with FN Fals and if the Irish had them they could have aquired them the same way that the Swedes did, by "liberating" them from their previous owners. But given the time line of events I doubt that had happend at the time the action at Jadotville took place and the Irish having the FN's in the movie could simply be the result of the production not getting their hands on right weapons mix or altering it to improve the story. (The movie certainly takes a fair bit of liberty with other much bigger parts of history.)

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2016 1:34 p.m. PST

The US pattern helmets were only the Liner,not the Steel pot.They also had a helmet of their own similar to the
Danish WW2 helmet. But w/ the heat and such ,they wore a variety of soft caps or berets.FNs came gradually,they migsht of had amix ,as was the situation in the Congo.They also had Thompson ford Armoured Cars,Armoured being a liberal word /w/ a Vickers in the turret.For pictures , of the Irish check out the Albums at link

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