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17 Apr 2017 4:39 p.m. PST
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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian06 Oct 2016 1:07 p.m. PST

It's been 5 years since we last asked this question… TMP link

Timmo uk06 Oct 2016 1:11 p.m. PST

I still like Bag the Hun. I guess they must be pretty good to stand the test of time.

Texas Jack06 Oct 2016 1:18 p.m. PST

Another vote for Bag the Hun, wonderfully fun rules!

22ndFoot06 Oct 2016 1:18 p.m. PST

Another vote for Bag the Hun.

Dances with Clydesdales06 Oct 2016 1:20 p.m. PST

Check Your 6!

Highland Guerilla06 Oct 2016 1:28 p.m. PST

Bag the Hun.

Microbiggie06 Oct 2016 1:36 p.m. PST

Still Check Your 6 for me and I like the TFL rules otherwise.

freerangeegg06 Oct 2016 1:42 p.m. PST

Bag the Hun

Grignotage06 Oct 2016 1:54 p.m. PST

Check your Six, my favorite by a wide margin.

Playing the campaigns out of that game's Breaking the Luftwaffe campaign pack have been my most enjoyable wargaming experiences.

Tgerritsen Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2016 2:02 p.m. PST

CY6, though I also like like the Black Cross rules.

Buckeye AKA Darryl06 Oct 2016 2:02 p.m. PST

Check Your 6! Done and done!

redbanner414506 Oct 2016 2:07 p.m. PST


Dynaman878906 Oct 2016 2:15 p.m. PST

Mustangs by the Yankee Air Pirates for me.

Robert66606 Oct 2016 2:15 p.m. PST

CY6 is good but if you want simpler rules then Tumbling Dice do some great rules for their 1/600 aircraft.

MBrewington06 Oct 2016 3:26 p.m. PST

Air Force by Avalon Hill adapted for 1/144th models.

Mako1106 Oct 2016 3:28 p.m. PST

Duel of Eagles for dogfighting.

Decent for small bomber raids too, and larger ones, with a little tweaking.

Purple Heart Valley looks to be quite good for bomber raids over Europe.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2016 3:40 p.m. PST

Another vote for Mustangs (WWII Fighter Rules).

Flight Leader (Avalon Hill) adapted for miniatures (Post – WWII).

Bombers Over Germany! (posted to TMP recently).

Mako1106 Oct 2016 3:44 p.m. PST

Bombers over Germany does look like it has promise.

The old Blue Sky series was pretty decent too, for large battles.

(Leftee)06 Oct 2016 3:59 p.m. PST

CY6. Great scenario books (some need proof-reading though). Excellent web support and community.

peterx Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2016 4:33 p.m. PST

CY6 too. I would like a Spanish Civil War supplement from the CY6 boys, if they would and could.

scrivs06 Oct 2016 4:38 p.m. PST

Bag The Hun give a great game

svsavory06 Oct 2016 4:50 p.m. PST

Check Your 6!

Sundance06 Oct 2016 4:51 p.m. PST

Still love Blue Sky series but all of our games in the last few years have been CY6!, which is an awesome game itself!

Allen5706 Oct 2016 5:38 p.m. PST

I like simple. Wings at War. Blue Skies is OK. CY6 too complicated. YMMV.

TNE230006 Oct 2016 7:20 p.m. PST

I enjoyed this one


instead of dice
you watched a random clip of gun camera footage

Joep12306 Oct 2016 8:38 p.m. PST

Hi TNE2300;
I had that game, probably somewhere still around here.
Loved the gun camera footage.
Now days we play CY6 in Central Maryland and CY6 Jet Age.

Winston Smith07 Oct 2016 5:18 a.m. PST

Check your 6

Fat Wally07 Oct 2016 6:49 a.m. PST

Bag the Hun

Ceterman07 Oct 2016 7:20 a.m. PST

Does Bag The Hun have a hex-less version?

boy wundyr x07 Oct 2016 8:09 a.m. PST

Bag the Hun is my choice, though I've only played CY6 Jet Age, I think it would work well too, though maybe with fewer planes per person.

@Ceterman – IIRC the new Algernon Pulls It Off will have a hex-less option and I think that can be ported to BtH. But the new Algy doesn't seem to be on the horizon for the foreseeable future…

Ceterman07 Oct 2016 8:17 a.m. PST

boy wundyr x, I know! They were supposed to put Algy2 out quite a while ago…
I did find out there is a hex-less write-up in the 2012 Summer Special from TFL.
From their site: Hi folks,

At the risk of thread necromancy, there is a sort of Hexless Bag the Hun already.

I wrote an article and produced a set of print and play resources (manoeuvre and formation templates) that specifically allows the game as published to be played on a hexless surface. The article was published in the 2012 Summer Special.

Note that the system preceded the more recent discussion and playtesting of the Hexless Algy Version, which uses a completely new (and as yet unpublished) system.

Anyway, just in case you're interested – check it out.
Tally ho,

So I will have to get that!

Texas Jack07 Oct 2016 8:58 a.m. PST

Ceterman, I play hexless by using hex shaped bases (from EM4) with 1/300 aircraft and found it works great. thumbs up

Ceterman07 Oct 2016 10:39 a.m. PST

Texas Jack,
I use hex bases too, for WW1 Jump or Burn. 1/144th scale. But it's not a hex based game. I'm gonna use the same bases for BTH. So how do you do that? Do you put hexes(bases) in front of the AC to see where you end up, move the AC, then pick the hexes up or what? I'd kinda like to get away from a bunch of stuff on the table.
Thanks, BTW!

Texas Jack07 Oct 2016 11:28 a.m. PST

We have a very sophisticated system: we use our fingers to mark the turning points and then a tape measure for movement based on the length of the bases. Not very scientific but effective, and there´s no clutter. grin

Sudwind07 Oct 2016 11:52 a.m. PST


Wargamer Blue08 Oct 2016 3:54 a.m. PST

Black Cross/Blue Sky

Ney Ney08 Oct 2016 9:11 a.m. PST

Check Your 6 is way beyond any others I've tried.

I found Bag the Hun very hazy on details.

Fatman13 Oct 2016 7:37 p.m. PST

Large actions Wings At War if available, they only have two WW II theaters covered at the moment, Blue Skies if not. Smaller actions Air Force/Dauntless.

In the case of BS and AF/D we have many home brewed aircraft stats for both sets. It occurs to me that I bought my first copy of Air Force the year it was released, 1976, I have been playing it ever since and still enjoy it. That's a lot of dice rolled. ;-)


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