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willthepiper05 Oct 2016 6:49 p.m. PST

For Pike and Shot and Horse and Musket games (roughly 17th Century to end of the 19th Century), there's a wargaming convention to have a musician in the command stand. Generally, this will be a drummer (side or snare) for the infantry or a trumpeter for the cavalry. There are a couple of exceptions, like pipers for Scottish regiments or bugles for Rifles/Jagers/Chasseurs.

As a result, it's easy to find side drummers for the infantry and trumpeters for the cavalry, and pipers wearing the kilt or infantry with bugles or horns. I've seen kettle drums for cavalry.

How about some of the other martial instruments? I'd be interested in other types of drums (bass drum especially, but also tenor drums).
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Pipers in trousers (how about a Gurkha piper?).
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Other instruments?
Brass and reed?
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Triangle?

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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2016 7:05 p.m. PST

Eureka's Saxons have oboes and bassoons.

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2016 7:51 p.m. PST

Crann Tara has a Savoie fifer.

willthepiper05 Oct 2016 8:32 p.m. PST

Thanks, Winston, good find. It was the OFM's post about the Gurkha Truncheon that got me thinking about other musicians.

And thanks Extrabio1947, the Crann Tara post reminded me of Der Alte Fritz' Spirit of '76 vignette:

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Andoreth06 Oct 2016 1:40 a.m. PST

Also in AWI the Perrys have a hunting horn player in the Queen's Rangers command set, and Hinchcliffe used to do a similar horn player as their musician for the British Light Dragoons.

Not so much a martial instrument but Siberia Miniatures have an Bolshevik accordian player in their Russian Revolution range.

Personal logo 22ndFoot Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2016 6:04 a.m. PST

Warlord do a figure representing Bill Millin which can be built either in a kilt or BD trousers and could be used for any Commonwealth piper later in the war. He's in their British Commando Characters pack.

The Assault Group do/did a piper in combats in their modern British range.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Oct 2016 9:58 a.m. PST

The different instruments you want actually depend heavily on the PERIOD you have in mind.

Snare drums did not exist in the 17th Century. The only side drums were those very large and deep varieties already associated with that period. Military Bands didn't even exist then, either, in any modern sense.

Many band instruments that are popularly associated with military usage weren't even invented until the middle and late 19th Century.

In order for our sculptor, Chris Ferree, to model in 15mm the soon to be released Mexican Military Band for the War of 1846-48, I had to do some proper research, which, I believe gave us the proper mix of period instruments (NO Mariachi horns, snares, Sousaphones, etc). Some instruments (e.g. the Serpent) would not come along until well into the 18th Century, and would be gone early in the 19th.

In short, depending, of course, on your period/subject, don't compromise your historically accurate collection with figures/instruments that would be science fiction from another time.

TVAG

willthepiper06 Oct 2016 2:04 p.m. PST

thanks for the ideas, Richard. I'm really just trying to get a feel for what's already available beyond the basic side drum for infantry, trumpet for cavalry. I'm certainly not ready to commission any new bandsmen!

Scharnachthal Inactive Member24 Nov 2016 10:30 a.m. PST

Snare drums did not exist in the 17th Century.

What is your concept of a "snare drum"? Any drum that has snares is a snare drum, not only that small pseudo drum in use today. So the various examples of drums with snares on the lower head as seen e.g. here are snare drums as well:

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or here:

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So, of course, snare drums existed in the 17th century.

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