Editor in Chief Bill | 29 Sep 2016 4:13 p.m. PST |
When painting wargaming models, do you use Gesso? |
Jeff Ewing | 29 Sep 2016 4:17 p.m. PST |
Yes, yes I do. Gray Liquitex gesso. |
TiberiusAugustus | 29 Sep 2016 4:20 p.m. PST |
Yes almost exclusively. Although I may need to replace mine, had it a few years and now it seems to not take hold as well as it used to. |
ecaminis | 29 Sep 2016 4:35 p.m. PST |
no use spray paint that is for palstics |
nnascati | 29 Sep 2016 4:36 p.m. PST |
Yes, unless I am painting plastics then spray. |
svsavory | 29 Sep 2016 4:48 p.m. PST |
I prefer spray primer, but if the weather is too humid or too cold to spray, then I use Liquitex gesso. |
Joes Shop | 29 Sep 2016 4:50 p.m. PST |
Yes, for soft plastic figures. |
45thdiv | 29 Sep 2016 4:54 p.m. PST |
I tried it a month ago and was not impressed. The bucket has become a door stop. I prefer spray primer. I just spray a lot of stuff in advance on nice days. I may not have much painted, but I have a lot primed. |
Winston Smith | 29 Sep 2016 5:26 p.m. PST |
I used to but not any more. |
davbenbak | 29 Sep 2016 5:43 p.m. PST |
Am going to try spray gesso on my next batch of soft plastics |
StoneMtnMinis | 29 Sep 2016 5:47 p.m. PST |
Question – Is gesso flexible when dry? TIA, Dave |
377CSG | 29 Sep 2016 5:58 p.m. PST |
Always use and works fine on metal and plastics. |
chuck05 | 29 Sep 2016 6:17 p.m. PST |
Yes. I switched a couple of years ago and never looked back. |
Desert Fox | 29 Sep 2016 6:23 p.m. PST |
Yes, for a few years now. Both metal and plastics. |
VonTed | 29 Sep 2016 6:23 p.m. PST |
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Syrinx0 | 29 Sep 2016 6:29 p.m. PST |
When I didn't own an airbrush, yes. Now days very rarely. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 29 Sep 2016 6:35 p.m. PST |
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ColCampbell | 29 Sep 2016 6:37 p.m. PST |
Yes, I use it as an undercoat for both 25/28mm and 15mm metal figures. My son has used it for both 28mm metal and plastic figures. Seems to work well if you let it dry and cure for at least 24 hours before putting paint on it. And we always brush it. Jim |
The G Dog | 29 Sep 2016 6:48 p.m. PST |
Just used it on a Shapeways 1/144 Black, Strong and Flexible model with great results. Really helped prepare the surface for painting – in this case as good or better than my typical coats of gloss coat followed by gray primer. |
rmaker | 29 Sep 2016 7:08 p.m. PST |
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The Nigerian Lead Minister | 29 Sep 2016 7:15 p.m. PST |
Once. So no, not anymore. |
recon35 | 29 Sep 2016 7:43 p.m. PST |
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Cyrus the Great | 29 Sep 2016 8:15 p.m. PST |
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SultanSevy | 29 Sep 2016 8:39 p.m. PST |
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CeruLucifus | 29 Sep 2016 9:00 p.m. PST |
Yes switched to exclusively Liquitex Gesso (white), Gray Gesso, Black Gesso, Clear Gesso. I brush on or when I need to spray I airbrush it. No fumes. Cleans up with water. It is true it gets harder if allowed to cure at least overnight. It is flexible. Its original use was for priming canvas after all. Do not dilute. If you apply it full strength it shrinks as it cures and does not obscure detail. If you dilute it, as it shrinks there will be bare spots and you'll need to touch up. |
x42brown | 29 Sep 2016 9:12 p.m. PST |
Not anymore might use it again for soft plastic and some resins but spray cans the usual nowadays. x42 |
nevinsrip | 29 Sep 2016 11:20 p.m. PST |
No. Walmart flat black. 97 cents a can. |
Atomic Floozy | 29 Sep 2016 11:47 p.m. PST |
I use it all of the time. |
PatrickWR | 29 Sep 2016 11:55 p.m. PST |
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steamingdave47 | 30 Sep 2016 12:03 a.m. PST |
Yes, on all sorts of models from 1/3000 metal to 1/72 plastic kits. Bought a £7.00 GBP bottle of acrylic white gesso 3 years ago, haven't used half of it yet. With smaller scale models, I tend to dilute it and use two thin coats. No problems seen with any of my models as yet, paint sticks well to the gesso. Used to use matte white car spray primer, but had to take trays of figures ourdoors to do it and the smell lingered for ages afterwards. With gesso I can do 1 or 20 figures anytime, not constrained by English weather and no complaints from SWMBO. about stinky fumes (although I have to make sure windows are opened in my study if using UHU, plastic cement or Araldite, all of which offend her sensitive nose) |
TamsinP | 30 Sep 2016 3:12 a.m. PST |
I have done for several projects and will do for any additions to those armies. I used Liquitex grey. I've largely switched to Vallejo surface primer now, run through the airbrush. |
B6GOBOS | 30 Sep 2016 3:55 a.m. PST |
Yes, use it to prime all my figures. Use black gesso and then highlight it with white paint. Get the best of both worlds. Used to us spray paint to prime but too wasteful. Curious why those who have said used to use gesso now say they do not? |
Dervel | 30 Sep 2016 4:38 a.m. PST |
For soft plastics and sometimes resins or difficult surfaces.. |
Rakkasan | 30 Sep 2016 5:12 a.m. PST |
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Karellian Knight | 30 Sep 2016 5:17 a.m. PST |
I don't know what gesso is. Therefore I have not used it. |
Bowman | 30 Sep 2016 5:48 a.m. PST |
No problems seen with any of my models as yet, paint sticks well to the gesso. I use it in the few instances I can't use a proper primer. The issue isn't how well paint adheres to the gesso, rather how well the gesso adheres to the surface. Sorry, but it's nowhere near as good as an oil based primer. Curious why those who have said used to use gesso now say they do not? Because an acrylic based chaulk suspension doesn't adhere to metal or plastic as well as a dedicated surface primer. Gesso is designed to prep porous surfaces, like canvas. Spray a primer on a figure, and paint gesso on another. Wait 24 hours and then rub your finger on the surface. You'll see. I still use gesso and it has some applications, especially during poor weather. But I can't pretend it's the same as a dedicated primer. |
boy wundyr x | 30 Sep 2016 6:52 a.m. PST |
Yes, though I need to find a local source for Liquitex grey as my current bottle is nearing the end. |
Scott MacPhee | 30 Sep 2016 7:45 a.m. PST |
I tried Gesso once, but I found that if I painted it on thin, it did not work to prep the figure. If I painted it on thick, it obscured details. I stick with my cheap Walmart rattle cans for priming figures. |
GurKhan | 30 Sep 2016 7:48 a.m. PST |
Gess, gess I do. I gess not. |
Extrabio1947 | 30 Sep 2016 9:23 a.m. PST |
I make flags out of metal foil. I used gesso once as a primer base, painted the flag, and when I tried to add furls, the gesso cracked and took the paint with it. Never had that problem with spray primers. |
HidaSeku | 30 Sep 2016 10:56 a.m. PST |
No, but I want to try it, I gess. |
KSmyth | 30 Sep 2016 2:34 p.m. PST |
Not often, but sometimes. I use Liquitex brush on. |
Tiberius | 30 Sep 2016 3:08 p.m. PST |
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jeffreyw3 | 30 Sep 2016 3:26 p.m. PST |
I used it for years, but found Vallejo and AK surface primers gave me a smoother, thinner base. I still use it on buildings and terrain. Sticking to the figures was never an issue for me. |
14Bore | 30 Sep 2016 4:34 p.m. PST |
White brush on gesso Have also used it as paper whiteout |
ced1106 | 04 Oct 2016 5:29 a.m. PST |
I've used it as post-apoc sidewalk texture, and sometimes as glue for basing! |
VicCina | 23 Oct 2016 2:37 p.m. PST |
Yes all the time. It's especially great during the winter months here in Oregon. I don't have to stand in my garage when it's cold to try a spray prime my figures. |
Rollo the Cat | 26 Jun 2017 10:44 a.m. PST |
Yes. last time I used a spray primer I got fuzzy, lumpy results on 300 figures. They had to be washed and scrubbed in Pine Sol for hours and hours. I will NEVER use spray primer again. |
Gallocelt | 26 Oct 2019 11:21 a.m. PST |
Well this is an old thread but I'm going to bring it back to life. "I got fuzzy, lumpy results on 300 figures." Rollo the Cat, I have had that happen to me once. It was more like 40 figures. I believe the problem was caused by high humidity. Like many other figure painters I've been reading about, I prefer to use spray primer, Krylon grey primer specifically purchased at a local Walmart. I will only spray out in my garage because I really hate the fumes. The problem is, many, many days are less than ideal weather conditions (too humid, too cold, too hot) to guarantee me good results. I should point out that my garage isn't climate controlled. So now that cold weather is approaching, I am considering painting indoors with Liquitex grey gesso. I have heard good things about this product, mainly from members of this forum. I plan to let the figures cure for several days before painting. |
von Schwartz | 26 Oct 2019 4:06 p.m. PST |
OK, dumb question here" WHAT THE HELL IS GESSO?!?!? |