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Mako1128 Sep 2016 12:07 a.m. PST

Seems as if the Russians are having their pilots practice first strike tactics, by infiltrating into Western airspace with transponders off, and by hiding beneath commercials jet liners:

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Granted, given the 6,000 – 9,000 feet of separation between the commercial jet and the fighters or bombers, there's no real danger of collision, but it certainly is an interesting practice for those claiming to not wanting to be escalating tensions in the region.

Clearly, they're doing just the opposite, and it's no wonder Western nations are reacting with alarm at their antics.

VVV reply28 Sep 2016 4:06 a.m. PST

Well one could argue that you have to be prepared for anything.

But the best first strike would be to infiltrate nukes into your target country using ships and tracks.

Private Matter28 Sep 2016 4:10 a.m. PST

Scary times

David Manley28 Sep 2016 5:28 a.m. PST

Just like the good old days

wyeayeman28 Sep 2016 6:49 a.m. PST

That report makes no sense at all. It doesn't know if it means fighters or bombers, or if there were two or three of them. If they were indeed below and behind how might the pilot see them?
I am not saying that Ivan does not chance his arm testing air defence reactions. Its just crap journalism.
Interestingly another article describes the deployment of a new (ish) Borei sub as 'Shoring up' Russia's far eastern fleet usually this sort of event is described as sabre rattling. Either Russias Navy is in a crap state and needs rebuilding (or hastily shoring up) or they are preparing for WW3.
Interesting language everywhere!

Mako1128 Sep 2016 10:03 a.m. PST

Yea, it was a bit confusing.

Since Tupolevs were mentioned, I suspect they're bombers.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2016 10:05 a.m. PST

"The three fighter jets flew with their transponders switched off, meaning they could not be detected by civilian radars."

Huh?

VVV reply28 Sep 2016 10:10 a.m. PST

I think, they meant, could not be identified. So unknown lumps of metal in the sky.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2016 10:11 a.m. PST

'The passenger jet's captain told Icelandic media he spotted the "risky" maneuver from the cockpit… '

It's possible that the Icelandic captain saw the Russian planes through his plane's video camera system. It is also possible that the Russian planes flew through the line of sight of the Icelandic cockpit crew on their way to a position below the airliner.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2016 12:42 p.m. PST

Well one could argue that you have to be prepared for anything.
Yes … just a good standard to have. And in all branches of the military. From Privates to Generals … train and practice and rehearse. Repeat …

Just like the good old days
Indeed … and IIRC, Mr. Putin was fond of those good old days …

Mako1128 Sep 2016 11:21 p.m. PST

Can't be detected, since they're hiding under the radar blip of the civilian jetliner, whose transponder is emitting.

PPIs are top down views, for ground radar stations, so they'd be hidden by the jetliner.

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