| Bill Slavin | 24 Sep 2016 7:05 a.m. PST |
Does anyone know what the headgear of the Spanish foreign line regiments' grenadiers (Swiss, Irish) looked like? Did they have the long embroidered cloth as well? I'm thinking not, and if not, what they might have worn? |
| Camcleod | 24 Sep 2016 7:31 a.m. PST |
The last two in this set are Irlanda and Neopolis. Not all in complete colour but do show the long hanging bag. link Hibernia in 1807:
link |
| Bill Slavin | 24 Sep 2016 10:19 a.m. PST |
Thanks so much, Camcleod,
That looks conclusive, especially the second link. Now to find out what was embroidered! (Not likely…) |
| Prince of Essling | 24 Sep 2016 1:15 p.m. PST |
Bill Slavin, Drop me an e-mail address that will accept an attachment and I will send you the reproduction for Naples (unfortunately it is in black and white. Will also see what else I have available. Please send to Prinzessling@gmail.com |
| TeodoroReding | 25 Sep 2016 4:56 p.m. PST |
It is correct that the grenadiers of the foreign regiments all wore the tall bearskin with the long, embroidered hanging bag. I've never seen an illustration of the device for Swiss bearskin bags. The general rule was that the regimental device (also there in the corners of two types of flag – Coronela & Sencilla) was at the top of the bag. I have my Swiss bags in red – though the device covering the whole of the top pat is on a white background – with white edging and squiggles down the middle of the hanging bit. Look at illustrations of other regiments and get creative! |
| Bill Slavin | 25 Sep 2016 9:04 p.m. PST |
All helpful! I will, as you say, get creative. |
| Prince of Essling | 26 Sep 2016 6:20 a.m. PST |
Bill, Further to my e-mails: Colour of Irlanda badge (last item) at link
Hibernia & Ultonia at link
Will check my copies of "Historia organica de las armas de infantaria y caballeria" by Clonard for further coloured badge plates that may assist.
All the best Ian |
| Prince of Essling | 27 Sep 2016 4:37 a.m. PST |
Bill, Sorry to say neither Swiss nor Italians regimental shields are available in Clonard. You will have to work with the black and white versions already sent to you. All the best Ian |
| Bill Slavin | 27 Sep 2016 6:16 a.m. PST |
Thanks again, Ian. I already am, working with the Swiss Regt. 3 (Reding) as my stand in for these troops. I'm proceeding with the assumption that the bag is the facing colour as usual, and then inventing the colour on the crest you forwarded. Gold's a safe bet for the crown, gold on blue for the fleurs de lis, and the little sprig I'm guessing green. At 1/72 who's to know?
The Irish will be may second, and I have the badge in colour for those thanks to you. I may leave it at that for now until I get some more Spanish infantry. I will e-mail you my results that I will be making transfers from.
Now that I have some of the regimental devices I may revisit my infantry flags! Bill |
| Scharnachthal | 27 Sep 2016 6:35 a.m. PST |
There is a back view of a grenadier of the Swiss regiment Kruter in the Estado Militar de 1789 (became Schwaller in 1790, Schmid in 1803, Wimpfen in 1805). The design is very simple. The bag is red edged white, divided vertically from top to bottom by a wavy white line, and ends in a white tassel. Sorry, couldn't find a pic in the net (the military estate is owned by the Anne. S. K. Brown Library, in case you want to do some research). |
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