Help support TMP


"American Drab Uniform Color?" Topic


11 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please remember not to make new product announcements on the forum. Our advertisers pay for the privilege of making such announcements.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the War of 1812 Message Board


Areas of Interest

Napoleonic
19th Century

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Featured Ruleset


1,513 hits since 23 Sep 2016
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?


TMP logo

Membership

Please sign in to your membership account, or, if you are not yet a member, please sign up for your free membership account.
jhancock23 Sep 2016 7:45 p.m. PST

Any paint suggestions for American Drab uniforms for 1812/early 1813? Specifically for the 17th USIR at Frenchtown.

Vallejo MC Khaki too green and US Field Drab too dark for me. Dark Yellow seems light and Golden brown too golden?

Any other suggestions? Maybe lighten US Field Drab with an off white, or just forget Drab and paint them in blue coats?

Winston Smith23 Sep 2016 9:02 p.m. PST

"Drab" is a catch-all description for anything from a muddy brown to unbleached cloth.
So, pick your favorite color and have fun.

Glengarry523 Sep 2016 9:20 p.m. PST

Take those colours you mentioned and mix them, whatever comes out will most likely be drab!

jhancock23 Sep 2016 9:41 p.m. PST

I started with the Vallejo US Field Drab and slowly added Yellow Ochre to lighten it until I found a shade I liked. Basecoat US Field Drab, wet brush the drab mixture. Actually close to Vallejo Golden Brown after drying! I guess "drab" and "butternut" are similar, variable colors?

Decided to paint officer, ensign, and drummer in blue coats and white breeches instead of drab.

Thanks, folks!

Jeff

Toronto4823 Sep 2016 9:44 p.m. PST

Lots of examples here

picture

Source

link

Winston Smith24 Sep 2016 5:18 a.m. PST

Why confine yourself to Vallejo?
Try craft paints. They're just as good, if not better. Much cheaper and last forever.

attilathepun4724 Sep 2016 7:35 a.m. PST

I have seen a reference that the 17th U.S. Infantry was still wearing their white linen summer uniforms at the Battle of Frenchtown, due to supply problems.

Brechtel19826 Sep 2016 6:41 a.m. PST

From A Most Warlike Appearance: Uniforems, Flags, and Equipment of the United States Forces in the War of 1812 by Rene Chartrand, 19:

'Color descriptions in 1812 period documents were often misleading. 'Blue' usually meant a dark blue that was produced with indigo dyes. 'Red' or 'scarlet' seem to have been used interchangeably and one can often mean the other. For example, the 'red' facings abolished in 1813 were the 'scarlet' facings described in 1812. 'Drab' was generally taken to be a dull, light brown color but a precise definition is impossible. The same can be said for the term 'bright green' used in some period descriptions. On the other hand, 'bottle green' is understood to be a dark green.'

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2016 8:30 a.m. PST

Geoffrey Walden has done a detailed study of surviving Confederate military uniforms which might bring some light to bear about the "drab" color of the American 1812 uniforms.

Here's the link to his initial article: link

In it and other articles he described the different ways to make "drab" coloring, including having the warp and weft of the thread being different colors or different types of thread or different dye batches.

I would surmise that something similar was happening in 1812 during the US uniform manufacturing process.

Jim

epturner30 Sep 2016 9:26 p.m. PST

jhancock;
I've used canvas brown and other similar paints to represent "drab".

I think Winston has it right when you say you can have a little freedom here on this colour.

I'd go with something less dark brown and more khaki like in colour.

My two shillings worth.

And I'm still looking for my Frenchtown stuff for you. I didn't forget.

Eric

Major Bloodnok06 Oct 2016 5:53 a.m. PST

One way to think of "drab" is to look at an old/historic wooden building that was never painted.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.