| GiloUK | 13 Sep 2016 6:18 a.m. PST |
Hello – I posted this on my blog last week, but it might be useful for beginners so I thought I'd post a link here. I've finished re-vamping my converged grenadier battalions and took the opportunity to post some information and thoughts on how to represent these units in an AWI collection: link [URL=http://s118.photobucket.com/user/GilesAllison/media/IMG_6344_zpshfdtzbcx.jpg.html]
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| SJDonovan | 13 Sep 2016 6:37 a.m. PST |
Thanks Giles, That's a really useful guide. I love your site and I refer to it all the time. I've got a bunch of questions about grenadiers' bearskin caps but I figure I should start a new thread rather than hijack this one. |
| Durban Gamer | 13 Sep 2016 7:04 a.m. PST |
As always, so informative and inspiring for my own 15 mm work! Fascinating to read that the 2nd Batts of the Highlanders have a red stripe in the tartan! |
| dBerczerk | 13 Sep 2016 7:35 a.m. PST |
A truly magnificent collection! |
| 42flanker | 13 Sep 2016 8:44 a.m. PST |
During the pause between the first and second stage of the fight for New York, the grenadiers of the 71st were so stricken by sickness that the 4th Grenadier battalion was disbanded and the grenadiers of the 42nd RHR reassigned to the 3rd Grenadier Bn. Headquarters New York Island 8th October 1776The Two Grenadier Companies [of the 71st) of the 4th Battalion Grenadiers being very sickly, are to join their Regiment; The 42d Gren Compy of said Battn will join the 3d Battalion Grenadiers under the commd of Major Marsh and Major Stewart. My understanding was that the grenadiers of the 42nd might have had a red stripe in their tartan. On arrival in America, the 'line' companies of the 42nd were divided into two ad hoc battalions. These were not official subdivisiond of the regiment. They would both have worn the Government tartan with which they departed Glasgow in April 1776. I think the same would have applied to the three ad hoc battalions into which the 71st were divided on arrival in America, despite being mustered as a two-battalion regiment. Losses at sea and chronic sickness had disrupted the original OB.I had the impression it is assumed the 71st wore Government tartan, rather than there being firm evidence. |
| Samurai Elb | 13 Sep 2016 9:00 a.m. PST |
Giles – I just added your link to my favorites. It will be very useful when I will paint my guards. I usually try to find a unit description on your blog before beginning a new Awi unit. Unfornately not many painted until now. Werner |
| Bill N | 13 Sep 2016 9:22 a.m. PST |
Good stuff Giles. You probably already know this, but FWIW: In 1779 the grenadier corps in Georgia was built around Grenadier companies from the 16th and 60th which were previously stationed in Florida which Prevost brought north. They may have been joined in certain actions by other companies either of British regulars or Loyalists. It is possible the 60th may have sent a Grenadier company to participate in the siege of Charleston, but otherwise these grenadiers seem to have remained in Savannah. This was the unit that fought at Bier Creek. In early 1780 Clinton brought a portion of the grenadier corps south to participate in the siege of Charleston. These returned north with Clinton after the conclusion of the siege. The corps that fought at Eutaw Springs appears to have been drawn from reinforcements sent from the British isles to Charleston in early 1781. It was organized by Rowdon shortly after their arrival to be part of the relief force for Ninety-Six. |
| Skeptic | 13 Sep 2016 7:53 p.m. PST |
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| historygamer | 13 Sep 2016 8:11 p.m. PST |
link If you look hard enough I think you can see the red stripe in this earlier uniform of the 42nd link link |
| historygamer | 13 Sep 2016 8:29 p.m. PST |
Thought you might enjoy some of these photos from an event at Mt. Vernon this past spring. link |
| 42flanker | 14 Sep 2016 9:17 a.m. PST |
Is it definite that the sett with a red stripe seen in the Morier painting grenadier tartan continued to be worn throughout the C18th. This is not an area I have looked into in great detail. There were a series of articles published circa 1931 in the regimental Journal , The Red Hackle/i> which dealt with the early tartan of the 42nd. |
| GiloUK | 14 Sep 2016 9:25 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the kind comments, all. I think I read about the red stripe in the Stuart Reid King George's Army Osprey (or one of them). It may well have been used only for one of the highland regiments – a bit of artistic licence deployed to use it for the "second battalions" of both the 42nd and 71st. |
